# Things in songs, movies,etc.. that shocked you others missed **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 12, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699 "2018-02-12T18:05:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/61 "2018-02-16T15:10:15Z")
And there’s always Andrew Marvel: > [@To His Coy Mistress](#): > > Thy beauty shall no more be found; > Nor, in thy marble vault, shall sound > My echoing song; then worms shall try > That long-preserved virginity, > And your _ **quaint** _ honour turn to dust, > And into ashes all my lust; And as for Shakespeare, who is often low-browed: Hamlet: Lady, shall I lie in your lap? Ophelia: No, my Lord. Hamlet: I mean, my head upon your lap. Ophelia: Yes, my Lord Hamlet: Do you think I meant country matters? I see nowadays the don’t shy away from the first syllable in “country,” but back in the day, there were all sort of convoluted explanations. (Shakespeare’s audience knew exactly what was meant, though.) ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/62 "2018-02-16T17:46:24Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > If one male prisoner is calling another “the cutest little jailbird I ever did see”, what else could he be talking about? That he has a cute appendicitis? 🙂 Next best thing to acute angina. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/63 "2018-02-16T18:24:16Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > The line in the Miller’s tale uses the word “queynte.” Interesting. The Audible recording I’ve listened to pronounces it “quim”. Perhaps a creative rendering by the reader. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/64 "2018-02-17T15:36:13Z")
Speaking of Shakespeare, Romeo & Juliet Act 3, scene 1: MERCUTIO Consort? What, dost thou make us minstrels? An thou make minstrels of us, look to hear nothing but discords. Here’s my fiddlestick; here’s that shall make you dance. Zounds, consort! Pronounce “minstrels” as “menstruals” and it suddenly makes much more sense. And is a whole lot funnier. ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/65 "2018-02-17T17:29:05Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > The noun is used in “The Miller’s Tale”. Nicholas grabs Alisoun by that part of her anatomy whilst making her acquaintance. > > The adjective, not so much. I remember this from high school English class. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/66 "2018-02-17T17:51:36Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I don’t see how it could NOT be, actually. > > Coed prisons don’t exist now, let alone at the time of Jailhouse Rock. Plus, it’s only guys dancing around in the [official video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj0Rz-uP4Mk) If one male prisoner is calling another “the cutest little jailbird I ever did see”, what else could he be talking about? That he has a cute appendicitis? 🙂 > > What did they think they were saying? You tell your cellmate or one of the guys on the cellblock in prison you think he’s cute and see what happens. To me it was a innocent song about prison, and pre dates the open knowledge of the horror of prison rapes and certainly wasn’t covering anything topical, more making a joke… It seems that we view such things with our modern eyes back in such a time… Elvis fans didn’t strike me as LGBT friendly either… ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/67 "2018-02-17T18:15:15Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > In The Prologue to the Wife of Bath’s Tale, he uses “queynte” and “belle chose” (“pretty thing”, an obvious euphemism) > > [From Geoffrey Chaucer's "The Canterbury Tales", The Wife of Bath's Prologue, lines 437-456](http://www.librarius.com/canttran/wifetale/wifetale437-456.htm) Yes, yes, I know well enough. (I’m the first person to even mention the word “queynte.”) My question was about “quim” being used in Chaucer. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/68 "2018-02-17T18:33:24Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > Interesting. The Audible recording I’ve listened to pronounces it “quim”. Perhaps a creative rendering by the reader. Is it a modern English recording? From what I can find, it looks like at least one translation uses the word “quim” there, but there are many translations. But in Chaucer’s original, the word is “queynte,” and I think would be pronounced something like “hwayn-tuh” if I’m remember my Chaucer class right. Or maybe it was “kwain-tuh.” I can’t remember what happened to "qu"s back then. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/69 "2018-02-17T21:45:53Z")
> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#): > > I remember this from high school English class. Fr. Debosier read it to us in English at Catholic High. “For he knew a woman hath no beard” brought laughs. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/70 "2018-02-18T01:47:51Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Speaking of Shakespeare, Romeo & Juliet Act 3, scene 1: > > MERCUTIO Consort? What, dost thou make us minstrels? > An thou make minstrels of us, look to hear > nothing but discords. Here’s my fiddlestick; here’s > that shall make you dance. Zounds, consort! > > Pronounce “minstrels” as “menstruals” and it suddenly makes much more sense. And is a whole lot funnier. How does that make sense and why is that funny? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/71 "2018-02-18T05:42:30Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Hamlet: Lady, shall I lie in your lap? > Ophelia: No, my Lord. > Hamlet: I mean, my head upon your lap. > Ophelia: Yes, my Lord > Hamlet: Do you think I meant country matters? You left out the next line, Ophelia: I think nothing, my lord. Apparently “nothing” was Elizabethan vernacular for what a woman sees, rather than a penis, when she looks down. The title _Much Ado about Nothing_ was probably quite salacious. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/72 "2018-02-18T11:27:25Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > You left out the next line, > > Ophelia: I think nothing, my lord. > > Apparently “nothing” was Elizabethan vernacular for what a woman sees, rather than a penis, when she looks down. The title _Much Ado about Nothing_ was probably quite salacious. [Captain Obvious] It’s Much Ado about Pussy??? [/Cap] Oh Shakespeare - you rake. I remember an Engineering roommate who had to get his English requirements out of the way. He comes to me with this poem he has to analyze and is like “Hey WordMan, can you tell me what this means?” It was some Walt Whitman poem about the power of a locomotive engine, straining to move forward and define America’s power. I took a look and replied “I think it means Whitman had a thing for giant throbbing penises.” He reread the poem and burst out laughing at the realization. Ah - _To a Locomotive in Winter_: [To a Locomotive in Winter by Walt Whitman - Poems | Academy of American Poets](https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/locomotive-winter) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/73 "2018-02-20T14:27:27Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > How does that make sense and why is that funny? “Menstruals” implies that Romeo and Mercutio are women, and probably references a sexual relationship between them, as Tybalt has already accused them of “consorting.” Remember, back to refer to a man as effeminate and a sodomite was a huge insult, and very funny. ---
**Author:** ![Tread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Tread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tread)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/74 "2018-02-24T07:16:31Z")
And apparently there are those who did not realize in Forrest Gump , Jenny had AIDs ---
**Author:** ![Sefton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Sefton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sefton)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699/75 "2018-02-24T15:41:56Z")
Here are the final lyrics of _Only the Lonely_ by The Motels: _Only the lone-ly!_ (gasp) _Only the lonelyyy!_ (shriek) _Can play…_ (downbeat) The song is about pointless sex and the last words portray the singer’s orgasm. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-in-songs-movies-etc-that-shocked-you-others-missed/808699.md?page=3)