# Things MEN do to make themselves attractive to WOMEN that don't make them attractive to women

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**Created:** [October 10, 2012, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279 "2012-10-10T03:35:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/61 "2012-10-10T19:32:49Z")

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> [@Sarabellum1976](#):
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> Hair plugs.
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> Bodybuilding.
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> Sportscars.

I read that last one as “sport scars.” I think those are mostly accidental.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/62 "2012-10-10T19:34:30Z")

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Comb overs.  
Heavy cologne.  
Overly ‘built’ physique - fitness and muscle are great - if you can no longer walk with your arms hanging down, you’ve gone too far.  
Dick shots.  
Bragging about your income - I don’t think I’ve seen this one mentioned yet (or 10 times and I’m asleep at the switch today) - having a job and financial security = good. Talking about it incessantly like it’s the only thing you have going for you? Not so good.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/63 "2012-10-10T19:38:15Z")

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> [@11811](#):
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> I read that last one as “sport scars.” I think those are mostly accidental.

But chicks dig them.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/64 "2012-10-10T19:39:30Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> Honestly, nobody wants to see that. Even if, in person, she’s all about it - trust me, that thing is not particularly attractive out of context.

**Penis in Context** would be an interesting username.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/65 "2012-10-10T19:41:40Z")

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Offering to send pictures of his naked body before we’ve met in person. At least 50% of the guys I’ve talked to on Okcupid have offered. How many ways can I say no? I don’t care, unless you have two penises. And, even then, my interest is strictly medical, not prurient. Some have sent them unsolicited, although I’m not entirely sure that’s so much an effort to be attractive than it is to be a creep. Either way, whatever the motivation, _stop it._

I also find any kind of spin an enormous turnoff. “Yeah, I’m sure you’re living with your mom entirely because she needs you. It has nothing to do with your drug habit, overindulgent gaming habits, and resultant lack of employability.” :rolleyes: This shit is no different than lying, and I hate self-aggrandizing fuckers of ALL stripes.

If I ever see a PUA negging a good-looking girl in a bar, I swear to god I would punch him in his stupid fucking face. And I’m a very nonviolent person.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/66 "2012-10-10T19:45:46Z")

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Offering to send pictures of his naked body before we’ve met in person. At least 50% of the guys I’ve talked to on Okcupid have offered. How many ways can I say no? I don’t care, unless you have two penises. And, even then, my interest is strictly medical, not prurient. Some have sent them unsolicited, although I’m not entirely sure that’s so much an effort to be attractive than it is to be a creep. Either way, whatever the motivation, _stop it._

I also find any kind of spin an enormous turnoff. Yeah, I’m sure you’re living with your mom entirely because she needs you. It has nothing to do with your drug habit, overindulgent gaming habits, and resultant lack of employability. :rolleyes: This shit is no different than lying, and I hate self-aggrandizing fuckers of ALL stripes.

I’m a very nonviolent person. But if I ever see a PUA negging a good-looking girl in a bar, I swear to god I would punch him in his stupid fucking face.

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**Author:** ![StrawberryDaquiri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@StrawberryDaquiri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StrawberryDaquiri)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/67 "2012-10-10T19:49:03Z")

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I love sports cars. Probably because I’m a lead foot and spent too many months driving a 2012 camaro LTS , but also because it makes the man look fun and possibly wealthy. It’s not the only thing that matters, but it does make me notice you.  
I also love the smell of certain colognes. Old Spice- mmmm

What does turn me off- tattoos, bragging about your wealth, steroid men (super bulky), wearing baseball caps backwards.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/68 "2012-10-10T19:57:43Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> At least 50% of the guys I’ve talked to on Okcupid have offered.

There has to be some positive feedback there or else they would learn to stop right? So either:  
(A) Some women do like receiving dickpics and their subsequent behavior encourages the practice.  
(B) A whole lot of straight men are being duped into sending dickpics to gay guys pretending to be women.

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**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/69 "2012-10-10T20:00:58Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> But chicks dig them.

True. It’s science.

[Facial scars are attractive to the opposite sex](http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/nov/18/scar-attraction)

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/70 "2012-10-10T20:04:16Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> Honestly, nobody wants to see that. Even if, in person, she’s all about it - trust me, that thing is not particularly attractive out of context.

Meh. Cockpics have certainly helped me make decisions about guys. Is…is that dickcheese? In the photo you sent to entice me into sexyfuntimes? Looks like it’s a cup of tea and a good book tonight.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/71 "2012-10-10T20:08:33Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Some guys have ruined their chances with me after a pretty long courtship/whatever by springing a dick pic on me. Again: nobody wants to see a picture of your penis unsolicited. No one. If we do, we’ll ask (but we probably wont). Show some freaking respect.

PM me your cell phone number.

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/72 "2012-10-10T20:36:55Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> [Target audience](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/abercrombie-and-fitch-gay-kiss-bruce-weber-_n_1383950.html) may not be women.

Hmmm. The local Abercrombie & Fitch where I live has one of those shirtless male employees standing by the entrance, chatting up gals as they pass by. [Dude’s got this kind of bod, more or less](http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z67/designscene/designscenealbum/DSNEW2/DannySchwarzbyBruceWeber01.jpg). My impression is that the ladies (of all ages) find him hot as all hell.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/73 "2012-10-10T20:41:43Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> **Penis in Context** would be an interesting username.

Why SDMB doesn’t have avatars.

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/74 "2012-10-10T20:47:50Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> I’m a very nonviolent person. But if I ever see a PUA negging a good-looking girl in a bar, I swear to god I would punch him in his stupid fucking face.

So this thread has already taught what a PUA is (or claims to be) but what’s negging?

to me negging is something like [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUMhauUDeWQ) or [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWc-muRAuMk)(by the way these vids come with the simple linctus thumbs up, all should click) 😃

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/75 "2012-10-10T20:48:20Z")

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> [@Steken](#):
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> Hmmm. The local Abercrombie & Fitch where I live has one of those shirtless male employees standing by the entrance, chatting up gals as they pass by. [Dude’s got this kind of bod, more or less](http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z67/designscene/designscenealbum/DSNEW2/DannySchwarzbyBruceWeber01.jpg). My impression is that the ladies (of all ages) find him hot as all hell.

That guy is fit and attractive; 'roided out comedian Carrottop is the other kind.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/76 "2012-10-10T20:51:18Z")

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Am I the only girl who doesn’t always mind getting dick pics? (Please for the love of god do not send me any).

Under the right circumstances, with the right guy, I don’t mind at all. And even when I did, I never shared them with another girl, ever.

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_manfully resists temptation to swamp Mika with pictures of Dick Van Dyke, Dick Cavett, Dick Van Patten, Dick Clark…_

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/78 "2012-10-10T21:00:12Z")

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Others have said my choices, but let me say amen to the bragging.

What is up with this? Do men think if they don’t point out how awesome/manly/strong/rich they are, then women lack the ability to figure it out themselves? The minute a guy has exceeded his quota of self-flattery, I start feeling a little contemptuous towards him and I desperately want to clown him.

Guys who have online profile pics of them posing with their shirts off…instant turnoff no matter how built he is.

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> It’s especially gross on a strange man if you can see it moving/ getting harder and softer.
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> Some guys have ruined their chances with me after a pretty long courtship/whatever by springing a dick pic on me. Again: nobody wants to see a picture of your penis unsolicited. No one. If we do, we’ll ask (but we probably wont). Show some freaking respect.

I hope it was clear that I was joking. Unsolicited nude pics are at best tacky. Allegedly I may have possibly sent some pics at some time. But I allegedly received pics first. Allegedly.

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**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/80 "2012-10-10T21:04:20Z")

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> [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> So this thread has already taught what a PUA is (or claims to be) but what’s negging?

Negging is when a PUA goes to a bar, and selects a really pretty girl who has obviously put a lot of care and attention into her outfit and looks, and then hits on her, but simultaneously is casually \*negative \* (negging) about how attractive he finds her to be, for the express purpose of attempting to lower her self-esteem/sense of worth so that she is willing to consider him for a pick-up.

I was negged once. As soon as I realized what he was up to, I “accidentally” dropped a full long-island on his crotch, raised a stink until he bought me another one (he wasn’t a very \*good \*PUA) then I turned around and started a great conversation with the extremely attractive, very friendly and complimentary bartender which lasted all night.

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