# Things MEN do to make themselves attractive to WOMEN that don't make them attractive to women **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 10, 2012, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279 "2012-10-10T03:35:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/81 "2012-10-10T21:11:29Z")
I really love your eyebrows. They arc so nicely, I almost don’t see your bulbous eyes. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/82 "2012-10-10T21:17:11Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > There has to be some positive feedback there or else they would learn to stop right? Up until recently in my life, I would respond with something like, “Nice” or something equally less offensive. Why? Because I figured, yeah, this guy is already wagging his dick in my face, but I don’t want to be a bitch and HEY! Maybe this can work. Yeah, it won’t work. Anyway, so yes, I take partial responsibility. For what it’s worth, now that I’m a full on grown up, I respond with things like, “Are you fucking serious? I don’t want to see your dick. Bye.” > [@Anaamika](#): > > Am I the only girl who doesn’t always mind getting dick pics? (Please for the love of god do not send me any). If my boyfriend sends me a picture of his dick, I treat it quite differently than if some strange dude whose last name I don’t know flashes his junk to me. I suspect most of us here are talking about the latter and not the former. Hell, I have had people _from this very board_ email me pictures of their junk. People I have had but a passing poster acquaintanceship with. > [@Loach](#): > > I hope it was clear that I was joking. Unsolicited nude pics are at best tacky. Allegedly I may have possibly sent some pics at some time. But I allegedly received pics first. Allegedly. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/83 "2012-10-10T21:20:51Z")
I have seen guys go a step beyond putting their best foot forward and over do the nice guy Mr. polite thing. It shows when it is not the normal behavior. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/84 "2012-10-10T21:31:22Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > Negging is when a PUA goes to a bar, and selects a really pretty girl who has obviously put a lot of care and attention into her outfit and looks, and then hits on her, but simultaneously is casually \*negative \* (negging) about how attractive he finds her to be, for the express purpose of attempting to lower her self-esteem/sense of worth so that she is willing to consider him for a pick-up. > > I was negged once. As soon as I realized what he was up to, I “accidentally” dropped a full long-island on his crotch, raised a stink until he bought me another one (he wasn’t a very \*good \*PUA) then I turned around and started a great conversation with the extremely attractive, very friendly and complimentary bartender which lasted all night. It never even occurred to me that that was a thing. I am so grateful I’m not out there. I’m sure that kind of thing never even existed way back in the dark ages when I was single (late 80’s-early 90’s). Although, I am a little disappointed I missed out on the opportunity to send women pictures of my dick. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/85 "2012-10-10T21:36:04Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > Negging is when a PUA goes to a bar, and selects a really pretty girl who has obviously put a lot of care and attention into her outfit and looks, and then hits on her, but simultaneously is casually \*negative \* (negging) about how attractive he finds her to be, for the express purpose of attempting to lower her self-esteem/sense of worth so that she is willing to consider him for a pick-up. > > I was negged once. As soon as I realized what he was up to, I “accidentally” dropped a full long-island on his crotch, raised a stink until he bought me another one (he wasn’t a very \*good \*PUA) then I turned around and started a great conversation with the extremely attractive, very friendly and complimentary bartender which lasted all night. shut up slag, what do you know? like that? 😃 thanks btw. Although I again thing everyone should watch those vids. They’ll make you chuckle 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/86 "2012-10-10T21:48:29Z")
A gym rat acquaintance with a friend working for a cell phone company persuaded her to obtain my number. He sent me the dick pic. It was enormous. Huge. Thick as the wrist in the photo. My response after who the hell is this?!? was “That’s really scary, What the hell is wrong with you??” 2 minutes later, same pic again, except he had taken a Sharpie and drawn a smiley face on the head and texted “That better?” God help me, I laughed my butt off. Never spoke to that creep again, but what a strange and hilarious thing to do with one’s junk. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/87 "2012-10-10T21:55:51Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Hell, I have had people _from this very board_ email me pictures of their junk. People I have had but a passing poster acquaintanceship with. WTF?! Why the hell can’t I get dates then? I mean really? The only picture of junk I’d be sending is of my basement, and probably not even then. I guess that’s one thing that I can’t fathom at all, except for hearing about it something like that would never have crossed my mind. I guess us normal, keep our dicks in our pants, type guys are the ones having a hard time. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/88 "2012-10-10T21:58:17Z")
? Are you saying your dating strategy consists of not sending dick pics? I would call that a good first step. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/89 "2012-10-10T22:01:54Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Others have said my choices, but let me say amen to the bragging. > > What is up with this? Do men think if they don’t point out how awesome/manly/strong/rich they are, then women lack the ability to figure it out themselves? The minute a guy has exceeded his quota of self-flattery, I start feeling a little contemptuous towards him and I desperately want to clown him. Being attractive is like being funny. People know it when they see it. But as soon as you point it out to someone, it makes you instantly unfunny / unattractive. > [@Lasciel](#): > > Negging is when a PUA goes to a bar, and selects a really pretty girl who has obviously put a lot of care and attention into her outfit and looks, and then hits on her, but simultaneously is casually negative (negging) about how attractive he finds her to be, for the express purpose of attempting to lower her self-esteem/sense of worth so that she is willing to consider him for a pick-up. VH1 did that The Pick Up Artist reality show a few years back where some guy who called himself “Mystery” taught a bunch of dorks how to pick up girls in the most discerning of venues - the pick up bar. I’m sure as soon as that show came out, every idiot was out at the bars trying “negs” and all the other stuff he demonstrated. Most of the time they come across as a creepy Times Square street pedler. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/90 "2012-10-10T22:05:30Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > There has to be some positive feedback there or else they would learn to stop right? So either: > (A) Some women do like receiving dickpics and their subsequent behavior encourages the practice. > (B) A whole lot of straight men are being duped into sending dickpics to gay guys pretending to be women. Don’t confuse positive feedback with a lack of negative feedback. Most of the time I just straight-up stop responding to (or block) a guy who does this. I don’t say, ew gross why are you doing this please stop. Just in case that’s the kind of reaction he wants, and I don’t want to validate it. Also, the kind of guy who delights in sending dick pics to anything with tits tends to exhibit a childlike delight wrt his own private parts. Perhaps to him, it’s natural to assume a woman is as excited by his penis as he is. Also, some guys are just fucking stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/91 "2012-10-11T00:11:38Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > ? > > Are you saying your dating strategy consists of not sending dick pics? I would call that a good first step. Yeah, that’s what I’m saying, but I never get past the first couple of dates. Maybe I need to send out dick pics. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/92 "2012-10-11T00:21:49Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > Don’t confuse positive feedback with a lack of negative feedback. Most of the time I just straight-up stop responding to (or block) a guy who does this. I don’t say, ew gross why are you doing this please stop. Just in case that’s the kind of reaction he wants, and I don’t want to validate it. Also, the kind of guy who delights in sending dick pics to anything with tits tends to exhibit a childlike delight wrt his own private parts. Perhaps to him, it’s natural to assume a woman is as excited by his penis as he is. > > Also, some guys are just fucking stupid. Rach, I know that some guys are out to do that, but I promise you that 99% of us are just clueless. Obviously I’m not asking you to go out of your way to provide feedback or anything, but _if_ the main thing holding you back is that and otherwise you would let the “suitor” know why you’re never going to talk to him again, then deffo feel liberated to do so. Anyway the other thing is I would assume that the perverted kind will get off more from a non response because he can then imagine you as being totally humiliated or something. A swift emotionless don’t do that again will take much of the wind out of his sails. Wow, I’m giving internet dating advice. I kind of feel fraudulent 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/93 "2012-10-11T00:52:44Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > I also find any kind of spin an enormous turnoff. Yeah, I’m sure you’re living with your mom entirely because she needs you. It has nothing to do with your drug habit, overindulgent gaming habits, and resultant lack of employability. :rolleyes: This shit is no different than lying, and I hate self-aggrandizing fuckers of ALL stripes. Considering what you’ve divulged of your own living arrangments on this board, you don’t really get to look down on others for theirs. Some of us really do live with our parents to help them out while being gainfully employed. ---
**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/94 "2012-10-11T01:01:52Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Oh, I thought of another one - the highly-stylized, metrosexual look, where a guy spends more time and effort on his hair and clothes and look than I do. Although, thinking about it, those guys might not be trying to attract the ladies. 😃 It’s the same concept though - trying to be more sexually attractive. ---
**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/95 "2012-10-11T01:05:15Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Bodybuilding, past a certain point. More is not always better. Same thing with cologne. Personally, I like a light scent on a man, but it should not track me down and demand my attention. Of course, the same thing goes for women’s scents, too. If I can smell you coming, or if I can tell you’ve been in a room a quarter of an hour after you left it, then you’re wearing too much.\* > > Combovers/backcombing can help very slightly thinning hair, but once the viewer notices it, it fails. And that time comes earlier than most will admit. Wearing tight clothes only works if the body is very, very well toned. Wearing tight clothes in an attempt to look smaller fails. Trust me on this. Ear and nose hair should not be visible to the casual viewer. > > \*\*Smoking. I don’t care how cool you think it looks, almost all smokers smell. \*\* And they taste nasty. > > \*Sorta sweet but sad: I had an older guy who kept encroaching on my personal space. It turns out that I wear the same perfume as his dead wife did (Opium) and he just wanted to smell me. Didn’t want anything else, just the smell, but I apply the perfume lightly so he had to get pretty close. Opium is…pretty strong, so I’m careful with my usage. _I_ love it, but I suspect that it could give people headaches if I put it on too heavily, even people who normally don’t get headaches from perfume. Some smokers smell worse than others. A lady got on my train carriage last night and she absolutely reeked of cigarettes. I can detect the smell on most smokers if they’ve smoked within the last half hour or so but still they don’t stink out an entire train carriage. ---
**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/96 "2012-10-11T01:08:25Z")
> [@Virgil\_Tibbs](#): > > **How about being loud and obnoxious, especially about sex? Whistling at women, or trying to chat up complete strangers in the street?** > > Wearing so much hair gel that it can act as a hard hat? Sleeveless vests? Ridiculously ornate sideburns and facial hair? Strutting? Acting like you’re Springsteen because you can strum a few chords on a guitar? > > After starting the other thread, I feel I should provide a little balance 🙂 I always assumed that was to impress upon their pals that they aren’t gay. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/97 "2012-10-11T01:21:59Z")
> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > WTF?! Why the hell can’t I get dates then? I mean really? The only picture of junk I’d be sending is of my basement, and probably not even then. > > I guess that’s one thing that I can’t fathom at all, except for hearing about it something like that would never have crossed my mind. I guess us normal, keep our dicks in our pants, type guys are the ones having a hard time. What’s really going on is that both types – your kind and the dick pic kind – are leaving the door open for those of us who are real men but still have a little class to make a killing out there. But it’s your lucky day, because I’ve got two words for you: ball pics. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/98 "2012-10-11T01:31:01Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > But it’s your lucky day, because I’ve got two words for you: ball pics. You know, I can’t even tell you how much worse that would be than a plain old dick shot. More than two times as bad, despite there only being twice as many items feature. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/99 "2012-10-11T01:35:30Z")
It’s weird; I get that a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/100 "2012-10-11T01:42:57Z")
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