# Things MEN do to make themselves attractive to WOMEN that don't make them attractive to women **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 10, 2012, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279 "2012-10-10T03:35:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/141 "2012-10-11T23:33:42Z")
> [@velvetjones](#): > > Meanwhile no one on this board has ever sent me pics of their dick or anyone named dick so color me disappointed. šŸ˜‰ Well Iā€™m not taking a photo of my junk, I might look like I belong on hoarders or something, but hereā€™s some pictures of [Dicks.](http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/diktracy.htm) ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/142 "2012-10-12T00:27:48Z")
Be a dick to service people (men or women). Women who care about power think youā€™re shooting fish in a barrel; women who donā€™t just think youā€™re a dick. You donā€™t have to humiliate the server request a different table or send back an undercooked steak. > [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Iā€™m honestly disappointed more people havenā€™t mentioned the stereotype of the brainless, alpha male, jerkish, jersey shore persona as a turn off. I think women do not assume that men do that to be attractive to women; they assume it comes naturally, > [@mage-girl](#): > > This may not be the correct place to post this, but I despise truck commercials that are all super-macho and manly. I feel the subliminal message is that ā€œyou need a truck this big to haul around your HUGE penis.ā€ I think the subliminal message is ā€œHe has this **instead of** a huge penis.ā€ > [@WhyNot](#): > > Tattoos, I gots 'em. I like 'em. I especially like them when theyā€™re a surprise - when theyā€™re covered by work wear and revealed in casual settings. Exactly. > [@msmith537](#): > > I think I have to call bullshit. > ā€¦ > > Conversely, that would presume the idea man for many of you is: > scrawny and weak or overweight > poor > nice (but not too nice)? > sober > bald > takes public transportation > humble > so sylistically neutral as to likely not be noticed Yes. That pretty much sums it up. There are guys you go home with, and guys you bring home, and, yeah, you just described the guy who will probably make a better life partner. (Bald is optional.) But you left out a very light use of scent. Very light. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/143 "2012-10-12T01:16:14Z")
> [@mage-girl](#): > > This may not be the correct place to post this, but I despise truck commercials that are all super-macho and manly. I feel the subliminal message is that ā€œyou need a truck this big to haul around your HUGE penis.ā€ I know thatā€™s \*exactly \*why they bought that huge truck/obnoxious Harley/dumb-ass lift kit for their Kia (really?) and itā€™s stupid as hell. If you really were confident in your manhood (either physically or psychologically) you wouldnā€™t fall for that crap. Thatā€™s why whenever my husband and I drive by one of those monstrosities, we chant in unison ā€œSORRY ABOUT YOUR PENIS!!!ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/144 "2012-10-12T01:24:02Z")
> [@Philster](#): > > \ Put Adam Levine in a new Dodge Ram and strip him\ OKAY! šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ šŸ˜ƒ > [@Edward\_The\_Head](#): > > Well Iā€™m not taking a photo of my junk, I might look like I belong on hoarders or something, but hereā€™s some pictures of [Dicks.](http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/diktracy.htm) Dick-rolled again! As an aside, I think weā€™re setting a new record for the use of the word ā€œdickā€ in a thread. šŸ™‚ ETA: > [@Lasciel](#): > > I know thatā€™s \*exactly \*why they bought that huge truck/obnoxious Harley/dumb-ass lift kit for their Kia (really?) and itā€™s stupid as hell. If you really were confident in your manhood (either physically or psychologically) you wouldnā€™t fall for that crap. Thatā€™s why whenever my husband and I drive by one of those monstrosities, we chant in unison ā€œSORRY ABOUT YOUR PENIS!!!ā€ My husband and I do that too! We also make an accompanying hand gesture - holding up our bent-over pinkies. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/145 "2012-10-12T01:27:44Z")
Chicks dig it when we order their food for them, right? _Iā€™ll have the double-cheeseburger and the ladyā€™ll have a small ceasar salad; dressing on the side._ Itā€™s what I call ā€œgameā€. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/146 "2012-10-12T02:01:35Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I can tell you, love, that itā€™s not exclusive to Harleys. I may have to rethink my ā€œno motorcycleā€ policy. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/147 "2012-10-12T02:20:17Z")
Hereā€™s another thing. I like chilvary but only when it feels natural and relaxed. If you wonā€™t ever let me open a door, even when my hand is nearing the knob and you have to run to actually grab it before I do, this is not attractive. In fact, you just might piss me off by inconveniencing me with this nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/148 "2012-10-12T02:28:57Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Chicks dig it when we order their food for them, right? > > _Iā€™ll have the double-cheeseburger and the ladyā€™ll have a small ceasar salad; dressing on the side._ Itā€™s what I call ā€œgameā€. oooh, baby - order it for me. Yeah. _fans self_ Iā€™m feeling a little wilted over here. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/149 "2012-10-12T02:55:18Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > I know thatā€™s \*exactly \*why they bought that huge truck/obnoxious Harley/dumb-ass lift kit for their Kia (really?) and itā€™s stupid as hell. If you really were confident in your manhood (either physically or psychologically) you wouldnā€™t fall for that crap. Thatā€™s why whenever my husband and I drive by one of those monstrosities, we chant in unison ā€œSORRY ABOUT YOUR PENIS!!!ā€ Now I have this song stuck in my head: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EVa1LUF6vM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EVa1LUF6vM). (link broken for NSFW lyrics!) ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/150 "2012-10-12T04:11:12Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Hereā€™s another thing. I like chilvary but only when it feels natural and relaxed. If you wonā€™t ever let me open a door, even when my hand is nearing the knob and you have to run to actually grab it before I do, this is not attractive. In fact, you just might piss me off by inconveniencing me with this nonsense. Yep being a bore is not being a gentleman. I am new to this whole scene after 15 years of marriage and man some blokes have no idea, they come across as complete wankers. You see guys who are really aggressiveness to women, thinking that the alpha male is the way to go but getting it wrong. Alpha Male carries himself with quiet strength not chest puffing look at me crap. But hey more douche bags out there makes me look good. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/151 "2012-10-12T04:27:53Z")
> [@phouka](#): > > Whatā€™s a PUA? > [@Ludovic](#): > > Pickup Artist. I was gonna guess ā€œPumped Up A\*\*holeā€ ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/152 "2012-10-12T05:09:49Z")
Same thing, so far as I can tell. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![phxjcc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@phxjcc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phxjcc)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/153 "2012-10-12T09:37:59Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Axe > > My wife, Pepper Mill, works as a substitute teacher. She says the boys all smell as if they _bathe_ in the stuff. Apparently they believe the hype from the commercials, at least subliminally. The girls invariably hate the stuff. What is up with this AXE shi, umm, stuff? Every 18 year old working at the Car Wash is bathing in it! ---
**Author:** ![velvetjones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/5f9b8f/32.png) [@velvetjones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velvetjones)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/154 "2012-10-12T11:19:03Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > Hereā€™s another thing. I like chilvary but only when it feels natural and relaxed. If you wonā€™t ever let me open a door, even when my hand is nearing the knob and you have to run to actually grab it before I do, this is not attractive. In fact, you just might piss me off by inconveniencing me with this nonsense. I had a friend who would do this. We used to go to lunch together and he always wanted to pick me up which was fine with me. When weā€™d arrived at our destination heā€™d say ā€œdonā€™t touch that door!ā€ and then bolt around the car to open my door for me. OK, yes, thatā€™s sweet and charming but, please, can I just get out of the car? This is Florida after all and an extra 10 seconds in the car is just making me sweat. He was a sport about it if I didnā€™t wait for him but still, it was awkward. (probably more awkward because we were friends but I could tell he would have liked to be more than friends except that he was married and I had a boyfriend, those feelings werenā€™t mutual) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/155 "2012-10-12T15:53:33Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > I was gonna guess ā€œPumped Up A\*\*holeā€ That works too. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/156 "2012-10-12T16:14:01Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > So far, Iā€™m good. šŸ™‚ Hell, I must be a love god. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/157 "2012-10-12T18:13:23Z")
Well, I canā€™t say WHY guys do it, but playing air-guitar, especially while making that face, and then looking over at us to confirm to them their air-playing prowess, is definitely not appealing. Luckily most guys seem to grow out of it. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/158 "2012-10-12T20:06:56Z")
I wear a [Utilikilt](http://www.utilikilts.com) just about all the time (except, not so good on a recumbent bicycle), it seems like a minority of women find it particularly appealing or intriguing. _Other_ men put their trousers on one leg at a time. ---
**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/159 "2012-10-12T21:02:22Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Well, I canā€™t say WHY guys do it, but playing air-guitar, especially while making that face, and then looking over at us to confirm to them their air-playing prowess, is definitely not appealing. Luckily most guys seem to grow out of it. Sure you may argue that my air guitar playing is not that great, or that I may have had more than just a few drinks ahead of time, or you may argue that the Olive Garden restaurant was not the proper time or place to be standing up on the table to do my solo. But I do it for me, donā€™t do it for anyone else. I do it because it makes me happy. ---
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279/160 "2012-10-12T21:04:42Z")
> [@the lone cashew](#): > > Sure you may argue that my air guitar playing is not that great, or that I may have had more than just a few drinks ahead of time, or you may argue that the Olive Garden restaurant was not the proper time or place to be standing up on the table to do my solo. > > But I do it for me, donā€™t do it for anyone else. I do it because it makes me happy. Right on, bro. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-men-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-women-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-women/637279.md?page=9)