# Things That Are Technically True But You Shouldn't Say Out Loud **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 28, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839 "2022-03-28T15:28:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/101 "2022-03-31T04:14:50Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Don’t blame the Jews for that, that’s strictly a Christian hangup. While not precisely countering your position > [@genesis 38](#): > > 7 and Er, Judah’s first-born, is evil in the eyes of Jehovah, and Jehovah doth put him to death. > 8 And Judah saith to Onan, `Go in unto the wife of thy brother, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother;’ > 9 and Onan knoweth that the seed is not [reckoned] his; and it hath come to pass, if he hath gone in unto his brother’s wife, that he hath destroyed [it] to the earth, so as not to give seed to his brother; > 10 and that which he hath done is evil in the eyes of Jehovah, and He putteth him also to death. this is from book 1, which is in the Torah, which is a source of law. It may not literally enjoin recreaional sex, but it is awfully close. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/102 "2022-03-31T05:41:36Z")
No, that has a whole different explanation in addition to the sperm-wasting issue. The point here is that Onan, and by extension any man similarly situated, is specifically commanded to marry his brother’s widow; the convention is called “levirate marriage”. This was because this was a horribly patriarchal society and a woman without a living father, husband or son was in very dire straits. Note also that there was no such thing as making a will; the law dictated which of your relatives had priority in inheriting your stuff, regardless of how you felt about them. And for inheritance purposes, any son that Onan might have with Er’s widow would be considered Er’s son, and would inherit all of Er’s loot, which in the absence of such a son would go to…Onan. You see the potential conflict of interest here? So Onan isn’t just violating the law about being fruitful and multiplying, he’s attempting to screw this woman out of money by failing to screw her literally. Again, this situation wasn’t uncommon in ancient Hebrew society, so you can see the need for a good strong cautionary tale to put the fear of God in the men involved. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/103 "2022-03-31T06:00:58Z")
This thread has taken a strange turn considering the title and how it started. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/104 "2022-03-31T11:46:52Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > People will say anything that comes into their heads and then justify it via religion. Aren’t you paying attention? They are using religion to _condemn_ coming into heads! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/105 "2022-03-31T16:30:40Z")
> [@Dandan](#): > > Checking in Bob Adelman’s “Tijuana Bibles”, I see that oral sex, both ways, was featured in about half the comics. Likewise a lot of the blue films of the period featured a lot of fellatio for the shock value. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/106 "2022-03-31T16:58:15Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > This thread has taken a strange turn considering the title and how it started. Yeah, exactly how old are some of your grandmothers?! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/107 "2022-03-31T17:25:03Z")
both of my grandmothers are as old as anyone ever gets ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/108 "2022-03-31T17:33:33Z")
Well, one of my grandmothers was born before Germany was a country, so she’d be a good one to ask. There might be a language barrier, though. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/109 "2022-03-31T19:14:47Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Don’t blame the Jews for that, that’s strictly a Christian hangup. You got a biblical cite for this? Because it isn’t true. Adultery _is_ very wrong, to Jews and Christians alike- and generally we consider it wrong even today. Sex outside marriage is frowned upon, aka “fornication” but exactly what that means has been debated. Sex _during_ marriage is a Good Thing, and not just to make kids. And remember, Jesus Himself said nothing about fornication, and even said Adultery should be forgiven. The rants about Sex are pretty much Paul, who thought Jesus and the Kingdom was coming soon. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/110 "2022-03-31T19:18:09Z")
I was talking about masturbation and non-vaginal kinds of sex (within marriage), not about adultery. But it has been pointed out that I was apparently wrong about even that. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/111 "2022-03-31T21:25:36Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Adultery _is_ very wrong, to Jews and Christians alike With the possible caveat that the adultery commandment originally applied only to women. I have heard this but am not certain it is the case, that the commandment about coveting (“thy neighbor’s _wife_”) is the one that applies to the guys. ---
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/112 "2022-03-31T23:24:51Z")
Original poster (OP) here. WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING TO THIS THREAD? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/113 "2022-03-31T23:27:46Z")
Just taking her out for a test drive. Mind if we take a left here? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/114 "2022-03-31T23:46:06Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Men- there is no good answer to the (largely hypothetical) question “Do you think I would have made a good prostitute?” Change the subject, ask her what she thinks, anything. I agree with how to handle this, but is this an actual question that gets asked? I apparently hang out with a different group of women you do. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/115 "2022-03-31T23:47:20Z")
That is not what the lady on the Thread Positioning System device is telling us to do. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/116 "2022-04-01T00:30:08Z")
> [@Ynnad](#): > > WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING TO THIS THREAD? My sincerest apologies. Trying to get us back on track: There is an African American accent. (and before I’m flamed, let me make it clear that it is not universal. Nor do I know from whence it comes) Human muscle, if properly cooked, is perfectly edible. The Nazis were responsible for the first anti-smoking campaign, being ahead of their time in the late 1930s ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/117 "2022-04-01T01:42:32Z")
When watching a TV show about a nice hooker or courtesan. My wife was admiring the costumes on a period drama and … > [@Moriarty](#): > > The Nazis were responsible for the first anti-smoking campaign, being ahead of their time in the late 1930s Hitler loved dogs, motherhood and was a sort of vegetarian (today, we’d call him a pescatarian). But although Hitler hated smoking, I do not think the Nazis were anti-smoking. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/118 "2022-04-01T01:43:30Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Human muscle, if properly cooked, is perfectly edible. Probably equally edible cooked or not. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/119 "2022-04-01T01:59:08Z")
Stolen from Saturday TV Funhouse: “Come back here with my thread!” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZKaW-ghb69U/maxresdefault.jpg "TV Funhouse: Anniversary Show - Saturday Night Live") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaW-ghb69U) ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839/120 "2022-04-01T02:06:12Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I do not think the Nazis were anti-smoking. I must respectfully disagree. > [@](#): > > Under Nazi rule, Germany launched the first and most broadly reaching anti-smoking campaign of modern times. Smoking was discouraged in the workplace, and banned in cinemas, and in schools. Policemen and servicemen could not smoke in uniform, and it was not permitted to sell women cigarettes in cafes and other public places. Advertising tobacco products was restricted. > **[The Nazis' Forgotten Anti-Smoking Campaign](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/07/the-nazis-forgotten-anti-smoking-campaign/373766/)** > > The Third Reich viewed tobacco as a threat to the health of the "chosen folk." [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-are-technically-true-but-you-shouldnt-say-out-loud/961839.md?page=7)