# Things That Bother Me in Science Fiction Movies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [October 24, 2023, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001 "2023-10-24T08:55:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/121 "2023-10-27T21:01:03Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Although Stark is supposed to be a mechanical genius. He must know that those mascot costumes have fans inside them to give relief to the wearers. I’m sure he could (and hopefully did) engineer some higher-tech air circulation mechanism to keep the sweat off his face. sure, which brings up the whole crapton of cables running from the battery pack all through the catsuit up and need to be hooked up before getting the mask on … for all of us, who hate the in-ear-phones with their cables getting all twisted up into a rats-nest - we can sympathise … along a similar vain: I always wanted to do a movie on mundane shitty stuff of superheros … Like food poisoning induced diarrhea and fighting your suit on the way to the toilet … or bringing your suit to the dry cleaners and the tickets get mixed up and being returned a silk-blouse or stuff like that. (every time they walk through a doorway, the draft would close the door on their cape making for an interesting start into a pursuit… that kind of stuff) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/122 "2023-10-28T19:11:06Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Butt-dialing a phaser could get messy. Sometimes a trigger guard didn’t help. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/x0QeJ1zWDS8/maxresdefault.jpg "Daffy Duck's Disintegrating Pistol") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0QeJ1zWDS8) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/123 "2023-10-28T20:25:48Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Mega corporations are stupid and evil **now**. So are small corps. Look the reason why we hear so much hate and bad tales about Walmart, Disney, Wizard of the Coast, etc- is that they are #1. #1 always gets flak, because it is so big. Also of course, since everyone is human and makes mistakes, a copr with a million employees will make more mistakes than one with a hundred- about ten thousand times more. > [@Lumpy](#): > > Specifically it’s “The Outlaw Jose Wales” in outer space: noble hero was on the losing side of a civil war/bid for independence. Except Wales was on the side of slavery and evil, and the browncoats apparently were on the side of Freedom. > [@Al128](#): > > Like food poisoning induced diarrhea and fighting your suit on the way to the toilet … or bringing your suit to the dry cleaners and the tickets get mixed up and being returned a silk-blouse or stuff like that. “_Honey, where’s my supersuit?_” ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/124 "2023-10-28T21:46:39Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Except Wales was on the side of slavery and evil, and the browncoats apparently were on the side of Freedom. Are you saying that the movie depicted Eastwood’s character as a villain? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/125 "2023-10-29T00:19:32Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Are you saying that the movie depicted Eastwood’s character as a villain? No, but since he was in a group like Quantrill’s raiders, led by Bloody Bill Anderson, who commited two massacres, took scalps and robbed. Not to mention raping a 12yo girl. They were nasty evil men. The film was made in the period when filmmakers tended to portray CSA veterans as the proud outnumbered losers in a good fight. Of course in the film, Wales is shown to be a mostly good guy, taking the side of the downtrodden, etc. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/126 "2023-10-29T00:21:41Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > As a wise man once said, “Too much thinkin’ ain’t good for ya’”. Or, as Harrison Ford allegedly once told Mark Hamill during the filming of _Star Wars_, “This ain’t that kind of movie, kid.” ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/127 "2023-10-29T04:21:44Z")
_Watchmen_ mentioned one of the costumed characters (Nite Owl, I think) mentioning that he gave up on having a cape because he couldn’t move through his own house without knocking stuff down and redesigned his costume after losing a stakeout target while taking a bathroom break. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/128 "2023-10-29T12:00:21Z")
_Watchmen_ even depicts a hero (Dollar Bill, his name was, if I remember right) whose cape got caught in the revolving door of a bank, trapping him there and allowing the bank robbers to easily shoot him to death. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/129 "2023-10-29T14:30:23Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Of course in the film, Wales is shown to be a mostly good guy, taking the side of the downtrodden, etc. I think that is one of the reasons that Firefly doesn’t age well, it’s a white boy fantasy of a “clean” confederacy. It should also be noted that Josey Wales written by a member of the Klan. > **[Asa Earl Carter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asa_Earl_Carter)** > > Asa Earl Carter (September 4, 1925 – June 7, 1979) was a 1950s segregationist political activist, Ku Klux Klan organizer, and later Western novelist. He co-wrote George Wallace's well-known pro-segregation line of 1963, "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever", and ran in the Democratic primary for governor of Alabama on a white supremacist ticket. Years later, under the alias of supposedly Cherokee writer Forrest Carter, he wrote The Rebel Outlaw: Josey Wales (1972), a West... ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/130 "2023-10-29T16:24:01Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Except Wales was on the side of slavery and evil, and the browncoats apparently were on the side of Freedom. Josie originally joined the side that was fighting against the Redlegs who murdered his family. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/131 "2023-10-29T16:26:29Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > I always wanted to do a movie on mundane shitty stuff of superheros … Like the Batsignal going off. Batman jumps into the Batmobile, then sees in the security camera that there’s an elderly couple having a picnic and picking flowers at the end of the Batdriveway. An inordinate amount of time is spent trying to shoo them. Pa Kent shaming Clark on his deathbed: “I could have been a leading seller and distributor of industrial diamonds. It would have taken you maybe 2 minutes to squeeze the coal, but no…” ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/132 "2023-10-29T17:38:15Z")
Or perpetually poor Peter Parker having to sew up rips and tears in his spidey suit. “Hey Aunt May, can I borrow your sewing kit? Yeah, I tore up my work clothes again. Strenuous job, being a freelance photographer. No, no, thanks for the offer, but I can do it myself— you already do too much for me. Are we all out of red and blue thread?” ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/133 "2023-10-29T17:44:16Z")
Robin demanding BM over the extense working hours and no weekend. No shop willing to work on the Batmobile as its full of off-brand accessories … and throwing a rod in hot pursuit, just to be towed by the AAA - and having to disclose his home address… Standing in line with the Batmobile over lunchbreak for technichal revision and failing it ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/134 "2023-10-29T17:45:25Z")
To be fair, it was written by a Klansman and prominent white supremacist who was part of a movement that actively tried to promote the great lie that the civil war wasn’t about slavery. It’s not surprising that it portrayed Wales as wronged and driven to violence. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/135 "2023-10-29T17:49:14Z")
Why did no one ever follow the Batmobile? Batman couldn’t lay down a smokescreen, or cover the street with oil every time he wanted to go home. ---
**Author:** ![eburacum45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum45/32/8690_2.png) [@eburacum45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum45)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/136 "2023-10-29T18:03:29Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Why did no one ever follow the Batmobile? The in-universe explanation was that the Batmobile was too fast for anyone to catch up with. Despite the fact that Batman was a stickler for the rules, and wouldn’t have broken the speed limit unless in an emergency. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/137 "2023-10-29T18:08:08Z")
And who ran that telephone line out to the Batcave? In addition to being the greatest detective in the world, is Batman also the world’s greatest telephone lineman, and he did it himself? Or did he use his massive wealth to bribe all of the linemen so they would keep quiet about where the Batcave really was? Or did he just kill them after they were done installing the Batphone? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/138 "2023-10-29T18:26:47Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Or perpetually poor Peter Parker having to sew up rips and tears in his spidey suit. “Super-hero has to deal with petty every day bullshit,” is pretty much Spider-Man’s whole character concept. “Peter fixing his suit between missions,” is a very common scene in his comics. He’s surprisingly clumsy at it. [![](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7f244fd34d9ca061cc83a87134668809-pjlq) ](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-7f244fd34d9ca061cc83a87134668809-pjlq) [![](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/0/40/1553238-spidertailor.jpg) ](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/0/40/1553238-spidertailor.jpg) [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXtgcfLXQAA7nc1.png) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXtgcfLXQAA7nc1.png) [But nowadays, he has a guy for that.](https://lowbrowcomics.wordpress.com/2015/12/23/the-tailor-tells-his-story-to-spider-man/) Likewise, “Batman’s clever plan for disguising the entrance to the Batcave” is a common trope, although the precise method changes pretty frequently. Secret cliff faces, holograms, a ravine that can only be jumped by a jet-assisted car. > [@MrAtoz](#): > > And who ran that telephone line out to the Batcave? Batman [secretly built all this under Wayne Manor](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/d/dc/Batcave_0015.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090305005730), and it’s the _phone line_ that trips you up? 😁 (My head canon for how he got the labor for all that? His best friend is Superman.) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/139 "2023-10-29T18:28:40Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > Josie originally joined the side that was fighting against the Redlegs who murdered his family. No, he didnt join the CSA army, he joined a group of terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-bother-me-in-science-fiction-movies/992001/140 "2023-10-29T18:47:51Z")
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