# Things that make you go WTF? \[Mary K. Letourneau hosts 'Hot Teacher' night\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 23, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417 "2009-05-23T19:43:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![erleichda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4da419/32.png) [@erleichda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erleichda)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/1 "2009-05-23T19:43:48Z")
Anyone else catch [this](http://www.komonews.com/news/45731497.html)story about Mary K. LeTourneau? ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/2 "2009-05-24T18:57:47Z")
Well, I must say Mary and Vili are one couple that’s stayed together longer than I expected. I wonder how they’ll be when she’s 75 and he’s 53. A 75-year-man with 53-year-old woman doesn’t sound so strange though. I suppose I should be outraged at her hosting a bar’s “Hot Teacher’s Night” but honestly, I just don’t care. I just wish the two of them happily ever after, and get the fuck out of here because your fifteen minutes are way over with. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/3 "2009-05-24T19:38:38Z")
For some reason, this story seems like it could easily end (down the road a few years) in a jealousy fueled murder-suicide, with Mary-K pulling the trigger… Apparently while she was in prison, she was obsessed that Vili was possibly interested in girls his own age, and made some rather vauge threats about harming herself. I too am surprised that they have lasted this long, but this recent bid for attention dosent seem like it’s a positive sign for them, as before they were supposedly asking for privacy in thier relationship. ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/4 "2009-05-24T21:03:12Z")
People with a past history of poor judgement continue to demonstrate poor judgement. In other news… ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/5 "2009-05-24T22:28:36Z")
> [@](#): > > In other news… Bears shit on the pope? Or do I have something mixed up here? It doesn’t sound right. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![TheMadHun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@TheMadHun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheMadHun)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/6 "2009-05-24T22:35:18Z")
Wimmin. Can’t live with them in school, can’t live without them on parole. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/7 "2009-05-24T22:38:49Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > Bears shit on the pope? > > Or do I have something mixed up here? It doesn’t sound right. :dubious: It’s not. In the Vatican, pope shits on _you!_ Also, if you’re a Catholic anywhere. Speaking of that, who the hell thought that electing a German pope was a good idea? That’s _my_ WTF moment. We need a Brazilian pope, dammit! We need a guy in the big funny hat walking out onto the fancy balcony with a bottle of Sangria in one hand and a soccer ball in the other. He takes a swig, endorses gay marriage, kicks the soccer ball into the crowd, and presto, I’m a Catholic again! ---
**Author:** ![Vlad\_Igor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Vlad\_Igor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vlad_Igor)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/8 "2009-05-24T22:39:25Z")
How about: a Catholic Bear shits on the Pope while in the woods. I dunno. I still think that Mary K. is not terribly stable emotionally. They did have time apart so that Vili had a chance to mature without her. I can think of other marriages that are worse for other reasons, though. The “Hot Teacher” gig is in questionable taste. That they’re married adults now doesn’t mitigate the egregious breach of a teacher’s responsibility to and conduct toward a student. Vlad/Igor ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/9 "2009-05-24T23:12:54Z")
> [@Linty\_Fresh](#): > > It’s not. > > In the Vatican, pope shits on _you!_ > > Also, if you’re a Catholic anywhere. > > Speaking of that, who the hell thought that electing a German pope was a good idea? That’s _my_ WTF moment. We need a Brazilian pope, dammit! We need a guy in the big funny hat walking out onto the fancy balcony with a bottle of Sangria in one hand and a soccer ball in the other. > > He takes a swig, endorses gay marriage, kicks the soccer ball into the crowd, and presto, I’m a Catholic again! Thanks for the laugh! Have you considered writing that and sending it to your cardinal? ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/10 "2009-05-25T00:15:12Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > Thanks for the laugh! Have you considered writing that and sending it to your cardinal? Yeah, I’ve written, but you know how it goes. He rolls his eyes, files another restraining order against me, and just ignores what I’ve written. I take it to my university’s writing tutors, but they don’t help much. "OK, **Linty** , you should probably watch your comma use. Also, have you considered writing it in Microsoft Word instead of your own blood? _Definitely_ easier to edit that way. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/11 "2009-05-25T00:36:24Z")
> [@Vlad\_Igor](#): > > I dunno. I still think that Mary K. is not terribly stable emotionally. They did have time apart so that Vili had a chance to mature without her. I can think of other marriages that are worse for other reasons, though. The “Hot Teacher” gig is in questionable taste. That they’re married adults now doesn’t mitigate the egregious breach of a teacher’s responsibility to and conduct toward a student. > > Vlad/Igor Yeah. I just feel like grabbing Vili by the shoulders and screaming "_Dude!!_ If you’re thirteen years old and sitting there in class watching your psycho teacher conjugate French verbs on the blackboard wondering if you should knock her up and then marry her when she gets paroled, the answer is _NO!_ Your kid’s going to be taking hostages while robbing the Piggly Wiggly before he’s old enough to drive, dingbat. Take him and _flee_. Just run . . . anywhere. Raise him in Bangledesh. He’ll still be more well-adjusted than he’d be hanging around Madame Squeaky-Fromme. ---
**Author:** ![AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/12 "2009-05-26T04:34:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Yeah. I just feel like grabbing Vili by the shoulders and screaming > > "Dude!! If you’re thirteen years old and sitting there in class watching your psycho teacher conjugate French verbs on the blackboard wondering if you should knock her up and then mharry her when she gets paroled, the answer is NO! Your kid’s going to be taking hostages while robbing the Piggly Wiggly before he’s old enough to drive, dingbat. Take him and flee. Just run . . . anywhere. Raise him in Bangledesh. He’ll still be more well-adjusted than he’d be hanging around Madame Squeaky-Fromme Maybe there’s something wrong with Vili? NOT to victim blame or anything like that… but very often in situtions like these the victim has some sort of social issue or some sort of impairment. It doesn’t have to be obvious…like a lot of kids fly under the radar just bullshitting about friendship things. There was a teacher-student sex case in my town. The teacher was one of those people who just radiated creepiness. Even I got a massive creepy vibe from him, and back then I was very out of it socially. Anyway, from what I understand most students got the creepy vibe from him. He decided to sexually abuse a girl with a brain tumor, as well as another girl who had a learning disabilty (she was in Resource Room with me) and who may have been sexually abused when she was younger. (I still don’t understand WHY she didn’t understand why doing the stuff she did with the teacher was wrong.) ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/13 "2009-05-26T05:12:03Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I wonder how they’ll be when she’s 75 and he’s 53. A 75-year-man with 53-year-old woman doesn’t sound so strange though. It ought to. Either people’s age differences matter both ways or they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/14 "2009-05-26T06:21:30Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > It ought to. Either people’s age differences matter both ways or they don’t. There’s not nearly such a big social gap between 70- and 50-year-olds as there is between a child and an adult. The whole problem with the age difference is that the adult is clearly taking advantage of the child’s naivety. But at a certain point, the younger partner learns and experiences enough to make the decision for himself. If, after 40 years, the guy is verifiably sane and still doesn’t want to leave her, then that’s his prerogative. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/15 "2009-05-26T06:59:46Z")
I would like to remind the world that Mary Kay is the daughter of the late right wing nutbag, John Schmitz [John G. Schmitz - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Schmitz) ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/16 "2009-05-26T09:07:25Z")
And that has what exactly to do with the price of tea in China? ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/17 "2009-05-26T18:10:48Z")
They gott eat, y’know? Regardless of the terrible things she did in the past, Letourneau is now just another citizen. And while it’s not the classiest thing anyone’s ever done, the American psyche is disturbed enough that people in these situations can often find their most lucrative career paths revisiting the scenes of their greatest crimes. She’s not exactly going to get her teaching job back. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/18 "2009-05-26T21:25:12Z")
The thing that bugs me is that she has a kid older then her husband. While her and Vili might not be right in the heads how much do you think her oldest kid is screwed up? ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/19 "2009-05-26T22:17:36Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > The thing that bugs me is that she has a kid older then her husband. While her and Vili might not be right in the heads how much do you think her oldest kid is screwed up? Not to defend Ms. Letourneau, but I’m sure there are plenty of older rich men who have second or third wives that fit that criterion. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417/20 "2009-05-27T16:14:50Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > Not to defend Ms. Letourneau, but I’m sure there are plenty of older rich men who have second or third wives that fit that criterion. Yeah, but did most of those older rich guys start banging those girls when they were 12? At 47, Mary Kay is still _far_ too young to be compared to creepy old dudes with trophy wives. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-that-make-you-go-wtf-mary-k-letourneau-hosts-hot-teacher-night/497417.md?page=2)