# Things the Opposition are saying

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 5, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279 "2008-11-05T15:55:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/1 "2008-11-05T15:55:31Z")

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Due to one of my hobbies, I found myself reading a related message board. The posters there tend to be… Let’s just say ‘extreme Right Wing’. Here are a few things I’ve read:

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> It could certainly be said that this election was stolen, and while it may seem silly on the surface, considering ACORN’s actions, it may very likely be the truth. Or, the messiah may have really won without the help of illegal voters.
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> Where are the Republicans screaming that the messiah is the illegitimate POTUS?
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> Where are the Republicans suggesting that the messiah “isn’t my POTUS?”

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> Americans should be ashamed of themselves for electing a black moslem over a white patriot !
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> We will pay for this dearly !

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> If the end of democracy comes to this nation, it will not be heralded by the sound of gunfire or the blinding flash of a nuclear holocaust. It will be defeated by the manipulation of the voting process; by the registration of voters who only see the surface and wish to vote to themselves the wealth of this nation. Never have so many people fallen in love with a candidate about whom they knew so little since the German people elected Adolph Hitler. Remember, Obama says nothing better than anyone. God help us.

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> He isn’t black. He’s half-white, half-Arab, all MUSLIM

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> America won’t last 4 more years. Maybe this is the omen to the Mayan calendar ending. Most of the prophecies of the Bible are in place.

There was another post last night, after the election was called, that is gone this morning. It was really vile.

This isn’t really a Pitting. It’s just an observation that there are some seriously scary people in this country. But I reckoned it would wind up here anyway.

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### Author: ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/2 "2008-11-05T16:36:17Z")

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> Where are the Republicans screaming that the messiah is the illegitimate POTUS?
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> Where are the Republicans suggesting that the messiah “isn’t my POTUS?”

I’ve seen both elsewhere, probably where you got the quote from, and there’s one of the latter in the Pit right now.

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/3 "2008-11-05T16:55:28Z")

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I don’t get it. Why is he “illegitimate”? The birth certificate thing?

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### Author: ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/4 "2008-11-05T17:32:16Z")

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he’s not legitimately elected either, with the ACORN guys putting in all those fake votes, don’tcha know?

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### Author: ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/5 "2008-11-05T20:09:17Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Due to one of my hobbies, I found myself reading a related message board.

Can you PM me that message board? I need to see this.

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### Author: ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/6 "2008-11-05T20:41:03Z")

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From a FOX News board posted from someone in my homestate!! ack…

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> I remember the good old days when the world loved us and we weren’t arrogant. That is when Ted Koppel and Nightline premiered. Of course the only reason that show existed was because our great love for the world had created the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Yep, Jimmy Carter wanted the world to love us to and we ended up getting taken to the cleaners.

WTF?

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### Author: ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/7 "2008-11-05T20:47:10Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> It’s just an observation that there are some seriously scary people in this country.

I fear it is only the beginning. [Crooks & Liars](http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/fox-website-commenter-wants-assassinate) has this post attributed to a Fox News forum.

Why do they hate America?

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### Author: ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/8 "2008-11-05T20:58:19Z")

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In contrast, here’s an excellent article on [National Review](http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YWQ5ZDU3MDM4ZTAxNTQ4NDkzY2NiYTAwYTc2ZmVjMmY=):

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> On a night of glorious triumph for him and his ravenous supporters, the message could easily have been: Time for you bitter clingers to get with the program. It wasn’t. Instead, the new president spoke humbly to those whose votes he said he had not yet “earned.” He promised to be our president too — to listen with a heightened attentiveness especially when we disagree, which, to be certain, will be often.

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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/9 "2008-11-05T21:08:22Z")

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> [@Dob](#):
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> From a FOX News board posted from someone in my homestate!! ack…
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> > I remember the good old days when the world loved us and we weren’t arrogant. That is when Ted Koppel and Nightline premiered. Of course the only reason that show existed was because our great love for the world had created the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Yep, Jimmy Carter wanted the world to love us to and we ended up getting taken to the cleaners.
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> WTF?

I’ll take “revisionist history” for 100 Alex

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/10 "2008-11-05T21:56:34Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> In contrast, here’s an excellent article on [National Review](http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YWQ5ZDU3MDM4ZTAxNTQ4NDkzY2NiYTAwYTc2ZmVjMmY=):

Until you get to the second page, when all of a sudden it goes back to “The mainstream media protected Obama! We don’t even know who he is!”

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### Author: ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/11 "2008-11-05T22:05:39Z")

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Some of the Freepers already have been saying, for months, that Obama is the Antichrist, and clearly not intending it as hyperbole, either. Hard to top that.

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### Author: ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/12 "2008-11-05T22:18:00Z")

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another gem from the Fox board, this was a comment on the “What should Obama do in his first 30 days”

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> Fire the Secret Service and get out in public as much as possible.

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### Author: ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/13 "2008-11-05T22:19:11Z")

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Remember the phrase “the loyal opposition?” They don’t.

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### Author: ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/14 "2008-11-05T22:23:05Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Some of the Freepers already have been saying, for months, that Obama is the Antichrist, and clearly not intending it as hyperbole, either. Hard to top that.

Maybe that will be the new Godwinism. Instead of Nazi being the trigger world, from now on it will be AntiChrist?

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### Author: ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/15 "2008-11-05T22:23:32Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Until you get to the second page, when all of a sudden it goes back to “The mainstream media protected Obama! We don’t even know who he is!”

There’s a little of that, but the article as a whole is conciliatory and patriotic, in the best sense of that word.

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### Author: ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/16 "2008-11-08T00:40:19Z")

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Congrats to John Derbyshire at the National Review, who manages to compare Obama’s policies to [Hitler and Stalin](http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWJmYmIwNzY0NWUwMmM5NDlhY2E5YmI1YjlkNTFlNGI=) in less than 3 dozen words.

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### Author: ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/17 "2008-11-08T02:42:04Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Some of the Freepers already have been saying, for months, that Obama is the Antichrist, and clearly not intending it as hyperbole, either. Hard to top that.

Well, he took a poke at Nancy Reagan so that’ll be close enough for some.

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### Author: ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/18 "2008-11-08T02:51:23Z")

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> [@Dob](#):
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> From a FOX News board posted from someone in my homestate!! ack…
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> > I remember the good old days when the world loved us and we weren’t arrogant. That is when Ted Koppel and Nightline premiered. Of course the only reason that show existed was because our great love for the world had created the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Yep, Jimmy Carter wanted the world to love us to and we ended up getting taken to the cleaners.
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> WTF?

That reminds me of somebody who used to post here. I don’t remember his name (though I’m sure somebody else will), but everything (_everything_) could be blamed on Ted Koppel. Anybody remember him? I hope it’s the same guy. I’d hate to think that two separate people have such a hard-on for Mr. Koppel.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/19 "2008-11-08T02:55:20Z")

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I believe you’re thinking of **GuyNBlueJeans** (or as another poster memorably dubbed him, **GuyNBrownShirt** ).

And to the other posters… you can relax, guys. _You won_. You don’t have to worry about being smeared now. Winners can afford to be gracious. Rise above it.

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### Author: ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)
#### Post date: [November 8, 2008, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-the-opposition-are-saying/471279/20 "2008-11-08T02:57:25Z")

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> Never have so many people fallen in love with a candidate about whom they knew so little since the German people elected Adolph Hitler.

God, this is the one that always makes me stabby: “We just don’t _know_ anything about Barack Obama.”

Yeah, I mean, all we really have to go by are his TV commercials, a dozen or so debates, hundreds of speeches, hundreds of interviews, thousands of articles, a state Senate voting record, two books, a painfully comprehensive web site, a 30-minute primetime special, and the two-week “Who is Barack Obama?” camp we were all sent to over the summer.

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