# Things which aren't from where their name suggests **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 5, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000 "2018-11-05T11:38:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/81 "2018-11-05T23:20:17Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > I don’t think Dutch ovens are a concept from the Netherlands - are they? It’s to do with a metalworking technique used in Dutch foundries, I believe. So no, I don’t they’re they’re specifically Dutch, but there were some made using a Dutch process which kicked off the name. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/82 "2018-11-05T23:22:34Z")
Swiss Rolls, to the best of my knowledge, are not Swiss. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/83 "2018-11-05T23:33:08Z")
I thought a Dutch Oven was when you gas your bedmate by holding the covers over their head after flatulence? Not sure if that was invented by the Dutch, tho. How about Belgian waffles? I know they have waffles in Belgium, but I am not sure they are like the once we have in the US going by that name, and maybe they are called something else? ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/84 "2018-11-05T23:42:43Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > I thought a Dutch Oven was when you gas your bedmate by holding the covers over their head after flatulence? Wow. By “bedmate” in this scenario I assume you mean erstwhile bedmate, who kicks you out of the house right after punching you in the face. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/85 "2018-11-06T00:01:53Z")
> [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > Swiss Rolls, to the best of my knowledge, are not Swiss. I don’t think Swiss Miss is from Switzerland, either. ---
**Author:** ![Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellis_Aponte_Jr)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/86 "2018-11-06T00:02:32Z")
Budweiser does not come from the Czech city of České Budêjovice, aka Budweis (except for the Czech kind that does) ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/87 "2018-11-06T00:15:40Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I recall a TV show about sexual matters back in the 1970s that observed that everybody named venereal diseases after some _other_ country. syphilis was “The French Disease” to the British (and in Naples), the “Spanish Disease” by the French, and IIRC, “The Polish Disease” by the Russians. > > Similarly, a Condom was called a “French letter” in the US (and, I think, Britain)[Mexican standoff - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff) In _History Laid Bare: Love, Sex, and Perversity from the Ancient Etruscans to Warren G. Harding_, Richard Zacks recounts researching old court records from various European countries. He found records of English women filing for divorce, on the grounds that their husbands wanted to do it “French style”. He found records of French women filing for divorce, on the grounds that their husbands wanted to do it “Italian style”. He found records of Italian women filing for divorce, on the grounds that their husbands wanted to do it “Greek style”. Apparently, sodomy is always blamed on those decadent easterners. ---
**Author:** ![NJ\_Kef\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b487fb/32.png) [@NJ\_Kef\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ_Kef_1)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/88 "2018-11-06T00:25:37Z")
The French disease. The English disease. The Spanish disease. ---
**Author:** ![NJ\_Kef\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b487fb/32.png) [@NJ\_Kef\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ_Kef_1)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/89 "2018-11-06T00:27:21Z")
The French disease. The English disease. The Spanish disease. ---
**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/90 "2018-11-06T00:39:48Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Oh boy, this is where things get somewhat confusing. They’re slightly different candy bars in US vs global markets. A UK/Euro Milky Way is like a US Three Musketeers (but smaller), and a US Milky Way is like a UK Mars bar. That is, US Milky Way has a layer of caramel on it; non-US Milky way is just nougat and chocolate. Meanwhile, US Mars bars are chocolate, nougat, and almonds, like a Snickers (formerly Marathon in the UK, but looking it up, it looks like that name has been gone since the early 90s) bar without the caramel layer. Non-US Mars are caramel, nougat, and milk chocolate. > > So -\> > > US: > > 3 Musketeers: Nougat, milk chocolate > Milky Way: Caramel, nougat, milk chocolate > Mars: Nougat, milk chocolate, almonds > Snickers: Caramel, nougat, milk chocolate, almonds > > UK (and elsewhere): > Milky Way: Nougat, milk chocolate > Mars: Caramel, nougat, milk chocolate > Snickers (and Marathon once upon a time): Caramel, nougat, milk chocolate, almonds > > I think I’ve got that right, but somebody please double check for me. It’s easily confused. I don’t know about the UK, but Marathon bars in the US didn’t have almonds in them. Are they still available? I haven’t seen them in years. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/91 "2018-11-06T01:35:22Z")
Dutch chocolate/cocoa is a process to make cocoa mix that isn’t dutch ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/92 "2018-11-06T02:01:27Z")
Countries get this a lot, for some reason. Republic of Cape Verde – has nothing to do with the actual Cap-Vert in Senegal. Benin – named for the Bight of Benin, which was named after Benin City in Nigeria. Madagascar – named for Mogadishu in Somalia by Marco Polo, whose geography was severely screwed up. Modern Ghana – named for ancient Ghana, which was hundreds of miles away in… Mauritania – named for the ancient Mauretania which was hundreds of miles away in Morocco. Appalachian Mountains – named after the Apalachi tribe who lived in Tallahassee, Florida, hundreds of miles away. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/93 "2018-11-06T02:09:29Z")
> [@Patx2](#): > > I don’t know about the UK, but Marathon bars in the US didn’t have almonds in them. Are they still available? I haven’t seen them in years. I believe they’re sold at some Cracker Barrels, but, of course, they’re only about 1/4th their original size. ---
**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/94 "2018-11-06T02:46:09Z")
Pâté chinois is a dish popular in Quebec and parts of New England with a strong Franco-American heritage. It’s similar to shepherd’s pie. It’s certainly not from China. One theory is that it was made by Chinese cooks to sell to railway workers. Another, highly unlikely, theory has it that it was invented in the town of China, Maine. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/95 "2018-11-06T02:55:41Z")
> [@Patx2](#): > > I don’t know about the UK, but Marathon bars in the US didn’t have almonds in them. Are they still available? I haven’t seen them in years. The US has Marathon bars? :eek: I had no idea! And I meant peanuts, not almonds. Is [this what you’re talking about](https://www.bulkcandystore.com/info/long-lost-candies-the-marathon-bar/)? Because, then, that’s another candy bar that is different from its US and UK incarnations. [This is the Marathon](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1019117/Nutty-decision-rename-Snickers-chocolate-bars-Marathon-again.html) I was thinking of. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/96 "2018-11-06T03:11:21Z")
The Virgin Islands produces only a tiny percentage of all virgins. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/97 "2018-11-06T03:26:51Z")
Boston butts are not from Boston, nor are they butts. ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/98 "2018-11-06T03:57:11Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > Wow. By “bedmate” in this scenario I assume you mean erstwhile bedmate, who kicks you out of the house right after punching you in the face. More likely cohabitating siblings, frat brothers, and other close knit pranksters, though modern romantic pairings could I suppose, have ventured into such territory in our liberal times… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/99 "2018-11-06T05:29:54Z")
Red Hook ale got its start in Ballard (Seattle) which is nowhere near New York. Not sure where it comes from these days. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/100 "2018-11-06T05:49:39Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Red Hook ale got its start in Ballard (Seattle) which is nowhere near New York. Not sure where it comes from these days. What’s the Red Hook - New York connection I’m so obviously missing? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000.md?page=6)