# Things which aren't from where their name suggests **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 5, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000 "2018-11-05T11:38:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/121 "2018-11-06T17:18:47Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > That’s a Curly Wurly! \ Did he ask you if you needed a ride? ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/122 "2018-11-06T17:37:38Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > OOOH I Know that one! > > In Spanish it’s called _ensaladilla rusa_, Russian salad. In Russia it’s called French salad, as we found out during a meal in which some of the guests happened to be from Russia. According to these, it was invented in Russia by a French chef (maybe he already knew it, but it’s unlikely as it’s indeed not something easily found in France). It’s a double-nationality salad! I believe you’re referring to _Salad Olivier_, created by a chef of the same name in Moscow around the _fin de siècle_. In my experience, it also contains chunks of ham and/or tongue. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/123 "2018-11-06T17:43:24Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > Bombay Sapphire brand gin was developed and is produced in England. …and named after an [actual gem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Bombay)…from Sri Lanka. ---
**Author:** ![Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@Ellis\_Aponte\_Jr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellis_Aponte_Jr)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/124 "2018-11-06T17:50:07Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Interesting. Never heard of it or the neighborhood in Brooklyn. When I first encountered “Red Hook,” I just remember it being similar to other beer names like “Red Dog” or “Red Stripe,” so it just seemed another name on a theme. Interestingly, Red Hook, Brooklyn has its own brewery, called Sixpoint. ---
**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/125 "2018-11-06T19:06:17Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > The Virgin Islands produces only a tiny percentage of all virgins. Extra virgin olive oil isn’t made by (extra) virgins. Strangely burritos don’t contain burro meat. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/126 "2018-11-06T19:23:16Z")
> [@furryman](#): > > Extra virgin olive oil isn’t made by (extra) virgins. Olive Oyl wasn’t a virgin? :eek: :dubious: 😕 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/127 "2018-11-06T19:30:46Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > Bombay Sapphire brand gin was developed and is produced in England. Not surprising, since “Bombay” seems to be a British name. Similarly, IPA did not originate in India, and, as I recall, India ink comes from China. Not sure where china comes from, but I am fairly sure it is not from China. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/128 "2018-11-06T19:38:50Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Not sure where china comes from, but I am fairly sure it is not from China. Porcelain is very much from China. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/129 "2018-11-06T19:45:25Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Not surprising, since “Bombay” seems to be a British name. Similarly, IPA did not originate in India, and, as I recall, India ink comes from China. Not sure where china comes from, but I am fairly sure it is not from China. But IPA was made to be shipped to India, when it was still part of the British Empire. So although potentially misleading as a name, it is born of accurate description. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/130 "2018-11-06T19:49:25Z")
> [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > Bourbon Whiskey, I guess, now I come to think of it. Bourbon Whiskey was originally distilled in Bourbon County, Kentucky. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/131 "2018-11-06T19:50:43Z")
> [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > > [@eschereal](#): > > > > Not surprising, since “Bombay” seems to be a British name. Similarly, IPA did not originate in India, and, as I recall, India ink comes from China. Not sure where china comes from, but I am fairly sure it is not from China. > > But IPA was made to be shipped to India, when it was still part of the British Empire. So although potentially misleading as a name, it is born of accurate description. Similarly, china, or porcelain, originated in China. Hence the name. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/132 "2018-11-06T19:51:37Z")
I guess this fits: Häagen Dazs ice cream is from the United States, specifically the Bronx, even though it used to have a picture of Denmark on the label. The words “Häagen Dazs” don’t even mean anything, the guy who invented it thought it sounded “old world” and fancy, and he put an umlaut over the A to make it seem extra-spiffy, even though there is no umlaut in Danish. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/133 "2018-11-06T19:56:13Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Bourbon Whiskey was originally distilled in Bourbon County, Kentucky. Maybe, maybe not. There are various theories and no definitive historical record. I’ve certainly encountered people who angrily insist that it has to be distilled there to carry the name though - and that definitely isn’t true - so I’d contend that it has a potentially misleading name, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/134 "2018-11-06T21:39:54Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > There’s a chain of fried chicken joints in the UK called “Maryland Chicken.” As far as I can tell it has nothing to do with Maryland at all, it’s just an American-style fast food restaurant. In Canada we have a chain called Boston Pizza. Americans tend to snicker at that name as Boston is not a city that is particularly renowned for its pizza. There is also an Ontario chain called the Lone Star Grill, although I believe that chain was founded by a Texan who was sick of not being able to find decent Tex-Mex food in Ottawa. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/135 "2018-11-06T22:07:45Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > In Canada we have a chain called Boston Pizza. Americans tend to snicker at that name as Boston is not a city that is particularly renowned for its pizza. > > There is also an Ontario chain called the Lone Star Grill, although I believe that chain was founded by a Texan who was sick of not being able to find decent Tex-Mex food in Ottawa. Heh. We have Boston Market, which never had their HQ in Boston (it’s in Colorado). Texas Roadhouse restaurants started in Indiana, and is HQ in Kentucky. Kansas City, MO. Placerville is the county seat of El Dorado County, not neighboring Placer county, in CA. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/136 "2018-11-06T22:07:50Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > In Canada we have a chain called Boston Pizza. Americans tend to snicker at that name as Boston is not a city that is particularly renowned for its pizza. > > . Actually, Boston, with its Italian-filled North End, is particularly well-known for pizza and other Italian food. The chains Pizarria Regina and Papa Ginos\* both originated there. The Prince Spaghetti ad (with “Little Anthony” of the North End) ran for years. \*Which just went bankrupt yesterday, although several of the stores are still in operation. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/137 "2018-11-06T22:25:45Z")
> [@Balthisar](#): > > wieners aren’t from Vienna or Frankfurt Sure they are. The sausages known today as frankfurters or wieners originated in Medieval times in Frankfurt am Main, whence they were brought to Vienna and massively popularized by the butcher Johann Georg Lahner in the early 1800s. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/138 "2018-11-06T22:28:01Z")
> [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > But IPA was made to be shipped to India, when it was still part of the British Empire. So although potentially misleading as a name, it is born of accurate description. I still consider the name to be wrong because it’s not brewed by phoneticians. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/139 "2018-11-06T22:27:49Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#): > > I guess this fits: Häagen Dazs ice cream is from the United States, specifically the Bronx, even though it used to have a picture of Denmark on the label. The words “Häagen Dazs” don’t even mean anything, the guy who invented it thought it sounded “old world” and fancy, and he put an umlaut over the A to make it seem extra-spiffy, even though there is no umlaut in Danish. Good one! I remember that as a kid in the 80s. The containers had a map of Denmark on the label, like you said, and certainly very much implied that it was Danish. I even seem to remember a big star marking Copenhagen on it. Ah, [Google to the rescue](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8a/84/8b/8a848be5c041d8fc7923055650720ea4.jpg)! That’s what I remember. ETA: Looking at it again, that has to be the worst crop of a map I’ve ever seen. I’ve been staring at it for the last minute or two, and I still am having difficulty fitting it into my mental map of the world, and I know damned well where Copenhagen is! I just feel like slightly more context would be helpful. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000/140 "2018-11-06T22:31:33Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Good one! I remember that as a kid in the 80s. The containers had a map of Denmark on the label, like you said, and certainly very much implied that it was Danish. I even seem to remember a big star marking Copenhagen on it. Ah, [Google to the rescue](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8a/84/8b/8a848be5c041d8fc7923055650720ea4.jpg)! That’s what I remember. > > ETA: Looking at it again, that has to be the worst crop of a map I’ve ever seen. I’ve been staring at it for the last minute or two, and I still am having difficulty fitting it into my mental map of the world, and I know damned well where Copenhagen is! Does Copenhagen snuff have anything to do with the city? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-which-arent-from-where-their-name-suggests/824000.md?page=8)