# Things women do to make themselves attractive to men that don't make them attractive to men **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 27, 2012, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987 "2012-09-27T10:52:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/61 "2012-09-27T22:34:13Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Breast implants. Now I’ve seen some good ones where you can’t really tell until they (don’t) move, but 95% of them are just pathetic and unattractive. Cut a grapefruit in half, paint a nipple on the halves and glue them to your chest. That would look better > > . Totally, the bounce of natural breasts is most of the attraction, not to mention the dangle if the nipples are pointing at the floor. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/62 "2012-09-27T22:35:44Z")
Skinny jeans. Until a few months ago, I worked with a gorgeous young Hispanic woman. She had perfect cafe au lait skin, long lustrous hair, and was facially a dead ringer for Sandra Bullock. But she insisted on cramming herself into skinny jeans. Now, she was by no means obese, but she wasn’t skinny either - she had broad hips and a large bust. “Zaftig” is probably the best word. The stovepipe jeans she insisted on wearing made her butt look huge; they totally screwed up the proportions of her shoulders, hips and legs. Being twenty years older and not having more than a nodding acquaintance, I certainly never said anything to her about her appearance; but I always hoped one of her girlfriends would tell her to throw away the skinny jeans and buy some straight legs or boot cuts - she would have looked stunning. Ladies, unless you are heroin-addict/Lindsey Lohan emaciated, lose the skinny jeans. Second on tattoos. I especially dislike the “Alabama license plate”, otherwise known as the “tramp stamp”. ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/63 "2012-09-27T23:22:07Z")
I never wear super high heels these days, but when my husband and I were young he used to LOOOOVE me to wear them. He said it made my legs look really sexy. He didn’t care that it made me taller than him. ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/64 "2012-09-27T23:29:52Z")
> [@simple\_homer](#): > > I have heard many times that women do not dress for men, they dress for other woman. I heard one comedian: We don’t notice your $300 purse We don’t notice your $200 shoes $15 shirt that shows cleavage? Oh yeah. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/65 "2012-09-28T00:06:07Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Lip injections. > > They are _not_ going to make you look like [_naturally thick-lipped celebrity_]. > > They’re going to make you look like a nightmarish, monkey-faced freak of nature, just like the thousands upon thousands of other women who thought lip injections would make them look like [_naturally thick-lipped celebrity_]. > > I’m not sure why this simple fact is taking so long to sink in. I love the description I heard when a previously-gorgeous model went and got those: sofa lips. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/66 "2012-09-28T01:24:31Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I love the description I heard when a previously-gorgeous model went and got those: sofa lips. Some site (I think it’s [Awful Plastic Surgery](http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/)) always calls it “trout pout.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GameHat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@GameHat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GameHat)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/67 "2012-09-28T02:36:50Z")
I used to think high-heels, but a female friend pointed out that they change the posture and shape of the leg, and now I think she was right. A woman in flats can be quite attractive, but for certain outfits heels really do “accentuate the positive.” For me, it’s nails - painted nails, nail extensions, etc. To me, they’re just gross. A simple mani/pedi looks very nice; the paint and extensions are just nasty and tacky. /just this man’s opinion ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/68 "2012-09-28T02:57:18Z")
[Bagel Heads.](https://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=643&q=bagel+head&oq=bagel&gs_l=img.1.0.0i3j0l9.1884.5268.0.8007.5.5.0.0.0.0.429.1157.0j3j1j0j1.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.je9expu_oHM) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/69 "2012-09-28T11:31:53Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Ladies, there should NEVER be a 360 degree field of black around your eyes for any reason. Unless you’re in camouflage, playing for the NFL, or Batman. Those are acceptable exceptions. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/70 "2012-09-28T15:07:08Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Unless you’re in camouflage, playing for the NFL, or Batman. Those are acceptable exceptions. But if any of those conditions apply, I don’t want to sleep with you. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/71 "2012-09-28T16:31:28Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > [This was a trend in Japan](http://emi-doll.blogspot.jp/2012/06/106-ganguaro-make-up-for-day-coming.html) a few years back. > > I can forgive pretty much everything else. . . But wasn’t Ganguro **meant** to be hideous though? ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/72 "2012-09-28T22:08:43Z")
Too much make-up or plastic surgery. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/73 "2012-09-28T22:51:10Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > You said it. Not only are women not constantly calibrating every aspect of their appearance to be maximally attractive to men, some women may be doing these things specifically to avoid being seen attractive to men. Beyond not being everyone’s priority, unwanted attention from men is obnoxious. If you are taken, celibate, picky, married, feeling unsexy or just focusing on other priorities, it can be really temping to try to deflect that attention. > > That 5’10" woman in the killer heels? She probably _likes_ intimidating the hell out of people, the same way a man might wear a sharp suit and mirrored aviators. The women with the out-there makeup? Maybe she has a boyfriend/girlfriend, and when she goes out with the girls she finds it more fun to project “fierce” or “out there” than “come hither.” The long nails? She may be saying “Go ahead, just try to hit on me. See what happens.” I would like to tell anyone dousing themselves in excessive perfume specifically to be unattractive, to choose some other method. It is not only unattractive, it makes some people, including myself, actively ill. ☹ Of course I assume the majority of those doing it think it is in fact attractive. They are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/74 "2012-09-28T23:05:13Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > Too much anything. ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/75 "2012-09-28T23:40:00Z")
Most of it has already been said, but I came in to mention Duckface, tramp stamps, and the abominable injected lips. Some might say she got the tattoo on the small of her back for herself. Ok, then why put it in a spot that is impossible to see 99.999% of the time? Is she advertising she’s easy? Did she think it looked good on the other bimbo with one? I’m truly baffled. I seriously think the girls with the “sofa lips” have some sort of disorder or something. There’s a big difference between “not my cup of tea” and “you must enjoy making children cry”. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/76 "2012-09-28T23:48:03Z")
> [@dnooman](#): > > Did she think it looked good on the other bimbo with one? Prolly this. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/77 "2012-09-29T00:10:02Z")
> [@chacoguy](#): > > [Bagel Heads.](https://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1024&bih=643&q=bagel+head&oq=bagel&gs_l=img.1.0.0i3j0l9.1884.5268.0.8007.5.5.0.0.0.0.429.1157.0j3j1j0j1.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.je9expu_oHM) WTF was that shit? ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/78 "2012-09-30T01:36:33Z")
Long nails, and specifically those “French tip” ones with white on the end. Utterly repulsive. My feelings about tattoos are fairly well-known - hate them with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns. I find myself actively avoiding looking at otherwise attractive young women. My wife has only worn make-up on half a dozen occasions during our twenty-five years together, and she does not need it. But I used to live with a girl with such pale skin that she really had to have some minimal amount to see her features in the sunlight. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/79 "2012-09-30T02:04:41Z")
Tatoos are a turn off. Piercings are a turn off I simply ignore fingernail and toe nail polish. Jewelry of any sort doesn’t do anything for me. Unnatural hair colour is a turn off. Think of the money that women could save. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-women-do-to-make-themselves-attractive-to-men-that-dont-make-them-attractive-to-men/635987/80 "2012-09-30T02:05:52Z")
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