# Things you are sure will happen in Harry Potter #6. (Open Spoilers!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2005, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931 "2005-03-30T12:52:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2005, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931/201 "2005-06-09T18:59:57Z")
> [@celestina](#): > > **ISiddiqui** , Aragog isn’t necessarily a good spider to everyone. He’s loyal to Hagrid because Hagrid saved his life, but Aragog was all too willing to let his children eat Harry and Ron in COS, and I imagine he would gang up with Voldy if Voldy allowed him and his kids access to more prey. I don’t think that Hagrid is a moron, but he does have a penchant for trying to tame untameable creatures like dragons. Aragog’s nature is complex because he can be loyal, but his nature is to kill. I could see Voldy finding a way to exploit that. Well, to be fair, Harry and Ron wandered right in the middle of the spider’s den and with the basilisk they probably weren’t eating well. Well if Rowling wanted to kill Hagrid, that would do it. He’d be so heartbroken his good creature friend went bad, he’d die of the shock. I don’t think she does it though. There is also that whole spiders don’t like snakes thing and Voldemort seems to really like snakes. > [@Feydeau](#): > > I’ve got the books here, but time constraints are leading me to consider watching the movies instead – is this heresy? I just don’t know whether I’ll have time to re-read all the books in time for the new one. It’s not heresy, but you may miss out on some of the fun little things that you start to remember again by re-reading (there really are a lot of small things in each book that come back later). It may make the new book more enjoyable if you can find more links to the previous books. That and there is no movie for GoF or OotP yet :D. ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931/202 "2005-06-09T21:00:00Z")
Why is it assumed that Harry _must_ become an Auror? Did JKR state that was his fate? Lord knows his hopes have been dashed in the past, leaving him feeling even more bitter and resentful. Who’s to say he won’t make it? That plus the sudden knowledge of his potential fate at the end of OotP could lead to a serious crisis with despair… might be interesting to explore. ---
**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931/203 "2005-06-09T21:46:42Z")
> [@Priam](#): > > Why is it assumed that Harry _must_ become an Auror? Did JKR state that was his fate? Lord knows his hopes have been dashed in the past, leaving him feeling even more bitter and resentful. Who’s to say he won’t make it? That plus the sudden knowledge of his potential fate at the end of OotP could lead to a serious crisis with despair… might be interesting to explore. All she’s said is that she pictures him in an action-oriented career, rather than teaching (someone asked if he would ever become DADA teacher). People have taken that to imply Auror or professional Quidditch player. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931/204 "2005-06-09T22:26:22Z")
> [@Priam](#): > > Why is it assumed that Harry _must_ become an Auror? Did JKR state that was his fate? Lord knows his hopes have been dashed in the past, leaving him feeling even more bitter and resentful. Who’s to say he won’t make it? That plus the sudden knowledge of his potential fate at the end of OotP could lead to a serious crisis with despair… might be interesting to explore. Yeah, that’s an interesting line of speculation. Say Voldemort kidnaps the Minister of Magic, and Harry and Tonks go to rescue him. Tonks gets incapacitated and Harry faces off with Voldemort. Then Harry Beats Voldemort and kills him at the urging of the Minister. But when he graduates from Hogwarts, they still won’t let him be an Auror. Then the Minister of Magic seduces Harry over to the dark side, and promises to make him an Auror and bring his parents back to life, because Cornelius fudge, Minister of Magic, is in reality, the Dark Master who was controlling Voldemort all along! :eek: Harry reports his finding to Mace WinduImeanKingsley Shacklebolt, who goes to arrest Fudge. . . Then all hell breaks loose. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2005, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931/205 "2005-06-09T22:40:51Z")
Ok, my thoughts: Dumbledore dies early in the book. But, unlike Sirius, there remains a way for him to offer advice to Harry. In OoTP, we see the pictures of previous headmasters in his office communicating with him, traveling to their other portraits and the like. There was also the line that he “didn’t care what they did as long as they didn’t take him off the Chocolate Frog cards”. Since he is still on them, he can still offer advice to Harry/the order. I think one of the Weasleys’ will die in either book 6 or 7, probably 7 - possibly Percy, but I think it’s more likely to be Molly or Arthur, and of those two, I think it’s more likely to be Molly. The Boggart in OoTP shows her the death of her family, but she also talks about what would happen to Ron and Ginny if something happened to her and Arthur. That’s what I’ve got at the moment for thoughts on book 6. I’ll have to think about it some more, though. ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2005, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931/206 "2005-06-09T23:38:20Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Yeah, that’s an interesting line of speculation. Say Voldemort kidnaps the Minister of Magic, and Harry and Tonks go to rescue him. Tonks gets incapacitated and Harry faces off with Voldemort. Then Harry Beats Voldemort and kills him at the urging of the Minister. But when he graduates from Hogwarts, they still won’t let him be an Auror. Then the Minister of Magic seduces Harry over to the dark side, and promises to make him an Auror and bring his parents back to life, because Cornelius fudge, Minister of Magic, is in reality, the Dark Master who was controlling Voldemort all along! :eek: Harry reports his finding to Mace WinduImeanKingsley Shacklebolt, who goes to arrest Fudge. . . > > Then all hell breaks loose. > > 😃 I feel dirty just being associated with this line of reasoning. Seriously, though, how a person deals with the disappointment of their dreams is a major aspect of growing up. A major facet of these books has been Harry’s progress from naive kid through teenage growth. I wouldn’t really write this off so fast… ---
**Author:** ![SpartanDC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@SpartanDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpartanDC)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931/207 "2005-06-10T00:41:11Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Yeah, that’s an interesting line of speculation. Say Voldemort kidnaps the Minister of Magic, and Harry and Tonks go to rescue him. Tonks gets incapacitated and Harry faces off with Voldemort. Then Harry Beats Voldemort and kills him at the urging of the Minister. But when he graduates from Hogwarts, they still won’t let him be an Auror. Then the Minister of Magic seduces Harry over to the dark side, and promises to make him an Auror and bring his parents back to life, because Cornelius fudge, Minister of Magic, is in reality, the Dark Master who was controlling Voldemort all along! :eek: Harry reports his finding to Mace WinduImeanKingsley Shacklebolt, who goes to arrest Fudge. . . > > Then all hell breaks loose. > > 😃 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![flamingbananas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f4b2a3/32.png) [@flamingbananas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flamingbananas)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931/208 "2005-06-10T00:46:57Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Yeah, that’s an interesting line of speculation. Say Voldemort kidnaps the Minister of Magic, and Harry and Tonks go to rescue him. Tonks gets incapacitated and Harry faces off with Voldemort. Then Harry Beats Voldemort and kills him at the urging of the Minister. But when he graduates from Hogwarts, they still won’t let him be an Auror. Then the Minister of Magic seduces Harry over to the dark side, and promises to make him an Auror and bring his parents back to life, because Cornelius fudge, Minister of Magic, is in reality, the Dark Master who was controlling Voldemort all along! :eek: Harry reports his finding to Mace WinduImeanKingsley Shacklebolt, who goes to arrest Fudge. . . > > Then all hell breaks loose. > > 😃 That’s fine as long as Harry doesn’t get all burned and not remotely good looking anymore. ☹ Poor Ani… ---
**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931/209 "2005-06-10T01:10:22Z")
Stop that. She spends so much of her time discounting _Star Wars_ theories. (Voldemort, for the record, is not Harry’s father – she gets that all the time). Now, as soon as Leia’s organized the ewoks – er, Hermione’s organized the House Elves – against the dark lord, everything should be fine 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2005, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931/210 "2005-06-10T01:47:57Z")
There you go, it’ll be House Elves vs. Goblins for final creature bragging rights. Both Harry and Voldemort bet on the outcome for the (_DUM DUM_) future of the magic world! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-are-sure-will-happen-in-harry-potter-6-open-spoilers/296931.md?page=10)