# Things you don't see anymore: **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 1, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836 "2020-04-01T21:18:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/61 "2020-04-06T17:29:49Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > A lot of the foods mentioned here are things I’ve had – and even sometimes still have. Herring in sour cream is sold in jars at most groceries, and is yummy on crackers as an appetizer. I just bought a large jar for the Holidays. Can’t wait to open it. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/62 "2020-04-07T02:26:54Z")
If you relish these sorts of overblown recipes, then I highly recommend the [Dali Cookbook.](https://maisonrogue.com/products/dali-les-diners-de-gala?variant=1693504995338¤cy=USD&utm_campaign=gs-2018-11-01&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpMXPnaHV6AIVA6SzCh0mzQu-EAQYASABEgIg4vD_BwE) Madame Dali was apparently known for her utterly hedonistic buffets. The Roman Emperors never dreamed of her excesses. An when she wrote up her recipes, her husband illustrated them. It’s amazing stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/63 "2020-04-07T02:41:07Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > In season, we would get fresh smelt at the fish store, and fry it up at home. This was an Irish/Italian neighborhood. Of course, this was back in the day when there were separate fish stores and butcher shops. > > Something we used to have regularly were swordfish steaks. They must have been pretty cheap for us to have afforded it. I can’t recall seeing it on a menu for many years, but maybe Mediterranean type places have it. I can get fresh smelt at my neighborhood fish stores, but I usually rub them with lemon and olive oil and grill them. Again, Greek wife. Swordfish steak is commonly available, too, but there seems to be an eco-reason not to buy them. Also, not cheap any more. ---
**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/64 "2020-04-08T18:35:53Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Lots of standard-fare American cooking when I was a kid, I haven’t seen for decades. Pineapple upside down cake. “Curry” which was cream sauce colored with turmeric over instant rice, with raisins, sweetened coconut, and chopped peanuts. Molded salads. Baloney on white bread with sweet pickle relish and mayonnaise. I could go on and on. All of it utterly unmissed. I made pineapple upside down cake last year. It was really sweet and I probably won’t make it for another 5 years or so. > [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > A lot of the foods mentioned here are things I’ve had – and even sometimes still have. Herring in sour cream is sold in jars at most groceries, and is yummy on crackers as an appetizer. Liver is harder to find than it once was, but I enjoy it now and then. (Chicken livers, especially made into rumaki as an appetizer, are delicious!) You can still get pineapple upside down cake – glop on some whipped cream for an especially wonderful dessert. > > I sort-of collect old cookbooks, and one item often referenced that I have never had and never seen in the stores is shad roe. I think you could get it fresh, but it also apparently came in cans. A Google search indicates you can get it, but cod (not shad) and it is a bit pricey. > > Has anyone here ever had shad roe? Was it good? I have enjoyed jarred herring and cream but I’ve never bought it, only eaten it at friends’ (Norwegian) house. My husband grew up eating shad roe and his father made it for us once. I think that was the last time my husband ate it. It was interesting, as the entire uterus is pan fried. I believe there is a shad roe festival every year in the area, which is near the Delaware River. > [@Colibri](#): > > My mother loved it, so we kids were forced to eat it. It’s one of the few things I can’t stand to this day (though I love chicken liver and liverwurst). > > She also liked tongue sandwiches. :eek: (Actually, tongue isn’t that bad, although I wouldn’t order it.) > > One thing we had a lot as kids in the Bronx were [fried smelt.](https://s3.amazonaws.com/bncore/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Photo-May-01-7-00-59-PM.jpg) I never see them any more although I think they may be available in other areas. And I grew up with Columbia River smelt, which are currently threatened. And if I really lost my sanity, I can buy tongue at the local grocery store or butcher. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/65 "2020-04-08T18:42:17Z")
> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#): > > … the entire uterus is pan fried… That is a phrase I’ve never seen before. And never want to see again. ---
**Author:** ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/66 "2020-04-08T20:35:21Z")
I’m reading a book called Hippie Food (by Jonathan Kauffman), and it talks about how rice cakes were first created and mass produced in the U.S. Rice cakes haven’t crossed my mind in a long time. Back in the nineties, they used to be The Food for people on a diet, but I suppose they weren’t low-carb enough to survive the dietary zeitgeist of the 2000s. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/67 "2020-04-08T21:35:30Z")
Honestly, the first thing I thought when I saw the thread title was “white dog shit”. Not really what the OP was going for, I didn’t imagine - and if it was then Café Society probably wasn’t the place for it - but that was where I went. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/68 "2020-04-08T22:19:04Z")
> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#): > > I’m reading a book called Hippie Food (by Jonathan Kauffman), and it talks about how rice cakes were first created and mass produced in the U.S. Rice cakes haven’t crossed my mind in a long time. Back in the nineties, they used to be The Food for people on a diet, but I suppose they weren’t low-carb enough to survive the dietary zeitgeist of the 2000s. Rice cakes are still a staple of whole foods stores. They come in various flavors like potato chips, which is good because otherwise they taste like packing material. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/69 "2020-04-08T22:38:07Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Rice cakes are still a staple of whole foods stores. They come in various flavors like potato chips, which is good because otherwise they taste like packing material. They’re pretty common in supermarkets in the UK. Well, in as much as anything is these days. We often have some Marmite flavour ones in, but we always have plain ones. I’ve always really liked them, and my daughter has enjoyed them with mashed sardines since she was still crawling. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/70 "2020-04-08T23:04:48Z")
> [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > Honestly, the first thing I thought when I saw the thread title was “white dog shit”. > > Not really what the OP was going for, I didn’t imagine - and if it was then Café Society probably wasn’t the place for it - but that was where I went. You are absolutely right about this. It’s known as [“chalky poo” or powdery poo](https://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/144241-white-powdery-poo/). In the olden days (when I was a kid) you’d see old dog poop around that had turned white and powdery and it would eventually fall apart or disintegrate. This is good. This is how it should be. Nowadays there are so many preservatives in commercial dog food that the poop never breaks down and disintegrates. You can learn a lot of shit and a lot about shit at the Dope. Returning to the regularly scheduled (pronounced _sshed_-uled for YP’s benefit :)) broadcast. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/71 "2020-04-08T23:25:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > You are absolutely right about this. It’s known as [“chalky poo” or powdery poo](https://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/144241-white-powdery-poo/). > > In the olden days (when I was a kid) you’d see old dog poop around that had turned white and powdery and it would eventually fall apart or disintegrate. This is good. This is how it should be. Nowadays there are so many preservatives in commercial dog food that the poop never breaks down and disintegrates. > > You can learn a lot of shit and a lot about shit at the Dope. > > Returning to the regularly scheduled (pronounced _sshed_-uled for YP’s benefit :)) broadcast. I was under the impression that it was due to their having traditionally been fed more bones…but either way, it’s not a common sight any more. To be honest, canine leavings of any stripe are a rather rarer sight nowadays. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/72 "2020-04-09T01:32:54Z")
> [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > I was under the impression that it was due to their having traditionally been fed more bones…but either way, it’s not a common sight any more. To be honest, canine leavings of any stripe are a rather rarer sight nowadays. It’s both, because those bones were raw and without preservatives. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/73 "2020-04-09T09:18:36Z")
> [@Anny\_Middon](#): > > Herring in sour cream is sold in jars at most groceries, and is yummy on crackers as an appetizer. No crackers. I just eat it right out of the jar, especially if it’s got lots of onions. ---
**Author:** ![jerez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jerez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jerez)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/74 "2020-04-09T09:54:26Z")
Manners. > [@](#): > > Marge: What ever happened to ‘please’ and ‘thank you’? > > Homer: They killed each other. Ya know, one of those murder-suicides. There are still plenty of four-string electric bass guitars, but I’ve seen many more with five strings in the last 15-20 years. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/75 "2020-04-09T11:13:52Z")
> [@jerez](#): > > Manners. > > There are still plenty of four-string electric bass guitars, but I’ve seen many more with five strings in the last 15-20 years. More five-strings than there used to be or more five-strings than four-strings? ---
**Author:** ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/76 "2020-04-09T15:41:33Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Rice cakes are still a staple of whole foods stores. They come in various flavors like potato chips, which is good because otherwise they taste like packing material. > [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > They’re pretty common in supermarkets in the UK. Well, in as much as anything is these days. We often have some Marmite flavour ones in, but we always have plain ones. I’ve always really liked them, and my daughter has enjoyed them with mashed sardines since she was still crawling. Oh I see them in stores, I just never see anyone actually eating them anymore. ---
**Author:** ![jerez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c68b51/32.png) [@jerez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jerez)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/77 "2020-04-09T17:28:47Z")
> [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > More five-strings than there used to be or more five-strings than four-strings? Both, it seems to me. When I see an average bass player of an average band, more often than it’s a five-string bass. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/59ef9b/32.png) [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorkshire_Pudding)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836/78 "2020-04-09T17:33:41Z")
> [@jerez](#): > > Both, it seems to me. When I see an average bass player of an average band, more often than it’s a five-string bass. Different circles! Absolutely not the case in my experience. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-dont-see-anymore/850836.md?page=3)