# Things you think you know, but you do not

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [May 28, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166 "2024-05-28T01:35:33Z")
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### Author: ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)
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> [@AskNott](#):
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> Until then, I didn’t know women didn’t know that.

Was there a time when you thought women would know that, or you just never thought about before then?

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### Author: ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)
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> [@Tibby](#):
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> So, while they may seem dog-like at first glance, hyenas are more feline in their family tree.

This explains so much.

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2024, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/103 "2024-09-23T23:44:08Z")

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I’m a guy, and I don’t put my hand against the wall when I pee

Honest Answer: Unless I’m 8 beers in and a tad unstable

Risque Answer: The doctor told me to use both hands with something that size.

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### Author: ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/104 "2024-09-24T00:41:57Z")

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I’m a guy and I don’t put my hand against the wall. What’s the purpose unless one is so drunk they should really be sitting down to begin with.

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/105 "2024-09-24T00:51:49Z")

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I am an older guy, but I only do ti at night, when I dont turn the light on. Mind you there is a nitelite and some ambient light, but I use my hand to make sure my aim is right. But I understand how & why he does it.

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### Author: ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/106 "2024-09-24T00:56:36Z")

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They always leave out the part that the famous Cleopatra was as ugly as a mud fence.

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/107 "2024-09-24T01:05:28Z")

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Her coin certainly shows a woman with a very strong and not attractive face. But period coins arent good guides to actual looks

> **[In pictures: Depictions of Cleopatra through the ages](https://www.middleeasteye.net/discover/egypt-cleopatra-depictions-through-history-pictures)**
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> From ancient murals to Shakespeare and Hollywood, the Egyptian queen has long been a source of artistic inspiration

_wall painting from around 46 BCE presumed to be of the [Egyptian]queen is one of few depictions from her lifetime that still survives-_ hard to tell, it is badly damaged, but not bad looking.

> **[What Did Cleopatra Look Like?](https://www.britannica.com/story/what-did-cleopatra-look-like)**
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> Cleopatra’s Beauty Was in the Beholder’s Eye

_This so-called Berlin Cleopatra depicts her wearing a royal diadem_ she looks pretty good, actually.

So, we dont have many period depictions of her looks. However, she was obviously extremely charming due to her intelligence. Over all, based upon the bust and the wall painting, I would say a good looking woman but not a beauty.

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### Author: ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)
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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> a very strong and not attractive face

It beggared all description.

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### Author: ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/109 "2024-09-24T11:36:40Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I am an older guy, but I only do ti at night, when I dont turn the light on.

We do have low level light in the bathroom at night, but I’ll often at least stick my elbow out against the wall to help with balance after crawling out of bed.

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### Author: ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/110 "2024-09-24T15:55:11Z")

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I don’t think I’ve ever put my hand on a wall while peeing. If I were so blinkered I couldn’t stand up straight, I’d just sit.

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/111 "2024-09-24T20:21:58Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> We do have low level light in the bathroom at night, but I’ll often at least stick my elbow out against the wall to help with balance after crawling out of bed.

Yep, that too. Also us older guys dont have the balance younger people do.

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### Author: ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/112 "2024-09-24T20:38:27Z")

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I am 75, with Parkinson’s to boot, so I wobble when I stand, even when I’m not trying to steady my aim into the toilet. However, in public restrooms, I’ve seen many other men putting hand to wall while draining the lizard.

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### Author: ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/113 "2024-09-24T22:02:07Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Yep, that too. Also us older guys dont have the balance younger people do.

In lieu of leaning my hand on the wall at home, I have overhead shelves with a cloth drawer at just the right height for me to lean my forehead against. This has the advantage of leaving both hands free.

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### Author: ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/114 "2024-09-24T22:31:28Z")

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71 year old here. If i have to pee in the middle of the night (correction: when I have to pee in the middle of the night), i will always sit down on the toilet. That way i don’t have to turn on a light, and, most importantly, I know I won’t miss.

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### Author: ![Trieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Trieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trieste)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/115 "2024-09-24T22:35:21Z")

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65 here. I’m sure I’ll catch flack for this but I always sit down….because there’s reading material (no not THAT! Readers digest, etc.)

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#### Post date: [September 25, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/116 "2024-09-25T03:35:01Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> I don’t think I’ve ever put my hand on a wall while peeing. If I were so blinkered I couldn’t stand up straight, I’d just sit.

Yeah, at night I sit down. That way I don’t need to aim, and if I don’t have to turn any lights on, it’s easier to get back to the bedroom with my night vision intact.

And during the day, I just stand and pee. The first mention of “hand on wall” stance sounded like they assume every male does it.

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### Author: ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2024, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/117 "2024-09-25T04:01:51Z")

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I must have different anatomy because sitting down would not improve my aim.

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### Author: ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2024, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/118 "2024-09-25T10:08:09Z")

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… but it brings the weapon closer to your target

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### Author: ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2024, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/119 "2024-09-25T11:48:36Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> 71 year old here. If i have to pee in the middle of the night (correction: when I have to pee in the middle of the night), i will always sit down on the toilet. That way i don’t have to turn on a light, and, most importantly, I know I won’t miss.

I do sometimes too.

Funny story - I had lunch with a friend recently. He had a small vertical cut on his forehead. I asked him what happened? He sat down on the toilet in the middle of the night, fell asleep and then fell of the toilet hitting his head on the door molding.

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### Author: ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-think-you-know-but-you-do-not/1002166/120 "2024-09-25T18:09:42Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Funny story - I had lunch with a friend recently. He had a small vertical cut on his forehead. I asked him what happened? He sat down on the toilet in the middle of the night, fell asleep and then fell of the toilet hitting his head on the door molding

I am sure, just by fleshing the story out _a tiny bit_, he can spin it into “I got that damn cut, fighting off a zombie apocalypse”

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