# Things you wanted to see in Star Wars or Star Trek

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 12, 2011, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672 "2011-11-12T05:01:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/61 "2011-11-17T14:27:40Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> And finally Diaanai Troy rushing naked out of her shower during an attack, only to encounter the female officer from Babylon 5 and find that shes been taken over by a malevolent mastermind so they have to wrestle, but unfortunately a passing female galley operative with an open tub of vegetable oil falls over and joins in the wrestling and then…
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> Sorry, sorry I’ve got to go and lie down for a bit.

Get back to us when you’re feeling better. 🙂

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/62 "2011-11-17T14:52:38Z")

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That could be a while!

Along those same lines, I always thought we should have seen more scenes between Troi and Crusher. Like showering after a workout. Or Leffler, after getting tired of Wesley’s fumblings, stomping off to 10 Forward, grabbing a bottle and an ensign, and haring off to her quarters to get her freak on.

Or, at any time during DS9 or ST:TNG, someone saying “I looked up the doctor’s log from the NCC-1701. Did you know that with a simple injection, we can all be unstoppable telekinetics?”

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/63 "2011-11-17T14:54:20Z")

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Terrorist action from the Rebels. They only do regular warfare things.

More explanation/sense of how the fuck the Empire deals with its aliens, seeing as it seems to have segregationist policies against them.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/64 "2011-11-17T15:09:49Z")

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You know how sometimes characters in a show will appear in other shows? And how they’re always time travelling on Star Trek? I give you the Enterprise crew ending up with the Sex and the City girls in NYC or Happy Days in Milwaukee.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/65 "2011-11-17T15:39:22Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> The Emperor having some sort of plan for Luke that made sense. (Seriously, why replace Vader? Vader was completely loyal and kicking ass.)

> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Because a really, _really_ good Sith Apprentice will soon become a Sith Master.
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> And, given the [Rule Of Two](http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rule_of_two)…well, Palpatine is better off sans Vader, let us say.
> 
> .

Especially since this _was_ Vader’s plan.

> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> Wesley Crusher caught cheating in an exam, or perhaps found rummaging through a female officers underwear draw.

Well, he did help perform a banned flight manuver that resulted in the death of a fellow cadet, then lied and participated in a cover up that blamed the dead cadet. For that he was …

held back a year in school…:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Straight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dec6dc/32.png) [@Enola\_Straight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Straight)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/66 "2011-11-17T15:55:57Z")

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A school in Star Wars…  
Teacher…if Rodia is the home planet of the Rodians,  
and Kashyyyk is the home planet of the Wookies,  
and Naboo is the home planet of the Gungans,

_where is the home planet of US HUMANS?_

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**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/67 "2011-11-17T16:18:27Z")

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Corellia.

(just a fanwank)

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**Author:** ![sco3tt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@sco3tt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sco3tt)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/68 "2011-11-17T19:17:46Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> Encountering another space ship that is upside down,or angled to the right what ever, to their own ship.

Definitely this. This should be the norm rather than the exception, but it never seems to happen. I have a vague recollection of it occurring once or twice in the 2009 Star Trek reboot but I could be mistaken.

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**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/69 "2011-11-17T19:27:54Z")

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I’d like to have seen the Countdown comic filmed.

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/70 "2011-11-17T19:55:29Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> Encountering another space ship that is upside down,or angled to the right what ever, to their own ship.

In one of the tech manuals or something, wasn’t there a reference that all of the ships are supposed to orient themselves to the galactic ecliptic (is that the right word?) or something? It seems to me that there was something about how SOP caused all of the ships to approach each other in a common orientation.

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**Author:** ![Barking\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Barking\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barking_Dog)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/71 "2011-11-17T20:06:16Z")

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> [@Enola\_Straight](#):
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> A school in Star Wars…  
> Teacher…if Rodia is the home planet of the Rodians,  
> and Kashyyyk is the home planet of the Wookies,  
> and Naboo is the home planet of the Gungans,
> 
> _where is the home planet of US HUMANS?_

Coruscant maybe? Speaking of which, I wouldn’t mind seeing a tornado ripping through the business district or something. Surely turning an entire planet into one big honking metropolis without any major topological features, like mountains or large bodies of water, ought to have some sort of big meteorological effects. Right?

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/72 "2011-11-19T08:02:21Z")

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> [@Foggy](#):
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> Star Trek: A regular recurring gay character.

Any gay character. (I’m sorry, I just do not count the redshirt in First Contact who TPTB swore up, down, and sideways wasn’t gay, but was later confirmed to be gay in one of the novels. The novels are never considered canon. Series appearance or GTFO.) Alternately, I would have much preferred Dax have been placed in a male host after Jadzia.

Also, seat belts on the bridge.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/73 "2011-11-19T10:46:02Z")

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> [@Enola\_Straight](#):
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> A school in Star Wars…  
> Teacher…if Rodia is the home planet of the Rodians,  
> and Kashyyyk is the home planet of the Wookies,  
> and Naboo is the home planet of the Gungans,
> 
> _where is the home planet of US HUMANS?_

They aren’t “us” humans. They’re humans who are completely unrelated to us.

Anyway, I got the impression that the Rodians, Wookies and Gungans are more primitave races, new to advanced technology and space travel. Humans, OTOH, are an ancient race that spread throughout the galaxy thousands of years before, and its origins are long forgotten.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/74 "2011-11-19T10:47:06Z")

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> [@Barking\_Dog](#):
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> Coruscant maybe? Speaking of which, I wouldn’t mind seeing a tornado ripping through the business district or something. Surely turning an entire planet into one big honking metropolis without any major topological features, like mountains or large bodies of water, ought to have some sort of big meteorological effects. Right?

Or else they’ve mastered weather control.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/75 "2011-11-19T11:19:44Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> Yes, but this was the future, where supposedly all 20th Century diseases had been cured. \<ducks\>

A friend of mine once suggested that seriously as a reason for no gays in Trek or SW.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/76 "2011-11-19T15:01:17Z")

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As for gay characters, I’ve always felt Spock was in denial.

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/77 "2011-11-21T11:38:43Z")

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I always wanted to see Star Wars light sabers used for other purposes. I got all excited when they were using them to cut through a door in Episode One but the scene didn’t go anywhere. It looked like Qui-Gon-Booze was having a lot of trouble with it as well, it should just slice through metal easy peasy.

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/78 "2011-11-21T13:17:08Z")

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Am I imagining it or pre-_Enterprise_ was there talk of a Starfleet Academy show? I thought that would have been interesting - sort of Star-Trek-meets-90210 - but I suspect that by the midpoint of the first season the writers and/or audience would have gotten bored and contrived to send all the characters into space for fun alien/technology-based hijinks.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/79 "2011-12-15T08:36:15Z")

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> [@SunSandSuffering](#):
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> I always wanted to see Star Wars light sabers used for other purposes. I got all excited when they were using them to cut through a door in Episode One but the scene didn’t go anywhere. It looked like Qui-Gon-Booze was having a lot of trouble with it as well, it should just slice through metal easy peasy.

We see this done twice in _Empire_, but you’re right–it was rarely taken advantage of post-Hoth.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-you-wanted-to-see-in-star-wars-or-star-trek/602672/80 "2011-12-15T08:41:58Z")

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Uhura’s boobs.

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