# Things you'd like to see but you know you ain't gonna **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 6, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784 "2010-07-06T22:08:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/1 "2010-07-06T22:08:58Z")
I’d like to see the Disney Channel get a whole lot [Darker and Edgier.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkerAndEdgier) ---
**Author:** ![janeslogin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@janeslogin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janeslogin)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/2 "2010-07-06T22:38:17Z")
I would like to see Netflix, or some such, get more European movies from the 1970s. They’ve thousands already but I want to view quite selectively and several I want are still not to be found. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/3 "2010-07-06T23:12:33Z")
The SyFy :rolleyes: Channel limit its programming to shows that are actually science fiction in nature (although I wouldn’t object to decent fantasy). Wrestling is _not_ science fiction, nor is paranormal investigation. Classic or camp SF is acceptable, if only for the historical or humorous value; interviews with SF authors would be a nice bonus. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/4 "2010-07-07T00:21:04Z")
> [@LurkMeister](#): > > The SyFy :rolleyes: Channel limit its programming to shows that are actually science fiction in nature (although I wouldn’t object to decent fantasy). Wrestling is _not_ science fiction, nor is paranormal investigation. Classic or camp SF is acceptable, if only for the historical or humorous value; interviews with SF authors would be a nice bonus. Expand that into a weekly or daily “Fandom Show” – coverage of SF conventions, interviews with SF authors, interviews with Big Name Fans, filksings, new-book reviews and new-film reviews presented by the guys who write them for SF magazines, etc. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/5 "2010-07-07T00:53:55Z")
George R. R. Martin complete _A Song of Ice and Fire_. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/6 "2010-07-07T00:59:43Z")
> [@LurkMeister](#): > > The SyFy :rolleyes: Channel limit its programming to shows that are actually science fiction in nature (although I wouldn’t object to decent fantasy). I’d settle for all the networks to go back to what they were originally supposed to be when they started. SyFy does Sci fi. MTV does music videos. CMT does country music. TVLand does old reruns. HLN goes back to being Headline News. The History Channel does history, etc. They wouldn’t even have to do it all the time. Just one weekend. Just try it. Please! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/7 "2010-07-07T01:12:22Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > George R. R. Martin complete _A Song of Ice and Fire_. Seconded. I’d like to see Legend of the Seeker get 7 seasons. ---
**Author:** ![Linty\_Fresh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Linty\_Fresh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Linty_Fresh)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/8 "2010-07-07T01:40:30Z")
I’d like to see the **Night Watch** series remade with the same actors, but this time have the films at least _try_ to follow Lukyanenko’s books more closely. The books were exciting, action-packed, and well thought out. The movies are visually stimulating, but kind of a mess. They were hard to follow until you read the books. After you read the books, they were fucking _impossible_ to follow. I would like to see a version of **Solaris** that concentrated on Lem’s vision of the futility of trying to make meaningful contact with an alien civilization rather than just focusing on Hari/Rheya and actually ended with Kelvin’s suicide. And speaking of **Solaris** , if we can expand the topic to books, I’d like to see an English version translated directly from the original Polish instead of the French translation. ---
**Author:** ![ErinPuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@ErinPuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ErinPuff)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/9 "2010-07-07T01:43:39Z")
I want a BBC miniseries about Benjamin Britten, starring John Simm. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/10 "2010-07-07T01:53:25Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Expand that into a weekly or daily “Fandom Show” – coverage of SF conventions, interviews with SF authors, interviews with Big Name Fans, filksings, new-book reviews and new-film reviews presented by the guys who write them for SF magazines, etc. Even better – I was considering something like that, but didn’t want to jump right into the deep end. It would be nice to see coverage of SF conventions that didn’t consist of “let’s all point at laugh at the weirdos.” > [@kunilou](#): > > I’d settle for all the networks to go back to what they were originally supposed to be when they started. SyFy does Sci fi. MTV does music videos. CMT does country music. TVLand does old reruns. HLN goes back to being Headline News. The History Channel does history, etc. > > They wouldn’t even have to do it all the time. Just one weekend. Just try it. Please! I picked my particular pet peeve, because I remember when the SciFi Channel was first getting started and they had booths and exhibits at SF conventions to solicit potential viewers and encourage them to pressure their local cable companies to add it to their lineup. We all saw it as the best hope for real science fiction programming, and some of us feel betrayed by the crap we’re now being subjected to. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/11 "2010-07-07T02:23:45Z")
The Taj Mahal, but that would mean having to go to India. Guess I’ll settle for the blues musician. ---
**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/12 "2010-07-07T03:21:36Z")
I’d like to see a Dark Tower movie done properly. Preferably an HBO miniseries. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/13 "2010-07-07T03:31:57Z")
> [@rolandgunslinger](#): > > I’d like to see a Dark Tower movie done properly. Preferably an HBO miniseries. Amen to that. Instead we’ll get (if we’re lucky) a 2 1/2 hour flick with an only tangential relationship to the books, and Will Ferrell as the Gunslinger (which is only slightly more ludicrous than Will Ferrell as Sherlock Holmes-yes he really will be in that latter case). ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/14 "2010-07-07T05:05:20Z")
_Last Dangerous Visions._ ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/15 "2010-07-07T05:10:35Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > (which is only slightly more ludicrous than Will Ferrell as Sherlock Holmes-yes he really will be in that latter case). Oh, [hell no](http://www.cinematical.com/2008/07/02/sacha-baron-cohen-will-ferrell-sherlock-holmes-dr-watson/). You were a touch wrong, though. Will Ferril is Dr. Watson. Holmes is being played by… Sacha Baron Cohen. We need a spin off thread titled “Things you never wanted to see, but you know are going to be made anyway”. ---
**Author:** ![BaneSidhe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@BaneSidhe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BaneSidhe)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/16 "2010-07-07T05:21:33Z")
> [@LurkMeister](#): > > The SyFy :rolleyes: Channel limit its programming to shows that are actually science fiction in nature (although I wouldn’t object to decent fantasy). Wrestling is _not_ science fiction, nor is paranormal investigation. Classic or camp SF is acceptable, if only for the historical or humorous value; interviews with SF authors would be a nice bonus. Maybe if the wrestlers wrestled oh, Cthulu? THEN it would be fantasy. I’d love to see a Nine Inch Nails reunion. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/17 "2010-07-07T05:33:59Z")
John Denver in concert. All four Monkees in concert. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/18 "2010-07-07T05:39:38Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Expand that into a weekly or daily “Fandom Show” – coverage of SF conventions, interviews with SF authors, interviews with Big Name Fans, filksings, new-book reviews and new-film reviews presented by the guys who write them for SF magazines, etc. Oh god, no. Fandom is wanky enough as it is. Giving BNFs the opportunity to voice their opinions on TV would make it about a million times worse. For people who are smart enough NOT to be involved with fandom, one favorite fannish activity is to argue about who is, and who isn’t, a Big Name Fan, or BNF. Getting accused of being a BNF makes you a magnet for wank. Hell, I once got accused of _acting like I think I’m a BNF_ and it got me wayyyy more attention than I wanted, or felt like I deserved. Of course, my fandom is famous for being wanky. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/19 "2010-07-07T06:39:58Z")
What’s a Big Name Fan? ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784/20 "2010-07-07T07:10:38Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > What’s a Big Name Fan? Pretty much what it sounds like. Someone who’s famous in fandom, usually for being a great writer. (Or artist, if you’re in a fandom that highly prizes fanart, I guess.) I’m into fandom for fandom’s sake, but I’m also into it because I find it fascinating as a subculture, and the phenomenon of the BNF is interesting to me. If you’re a really fantastic writer, then you get lots of comments on your fanfics and people listen to your opinion on things, about the canon material, and whatever people in fandom are arguing about at the moment. But you also open yourself up to lots of criticism. Some people just hate BNFs on principal. (Because they think they’re soooo great.) There’s sort of a love/hate relationship. And there are people who want their fic to be popular, but don’t want the label of a BNF. Fandom’s a lot like junior high, but with more gay porn, I guess. [Cassandra Clare](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra_Clare) is probably the best known BNF right now. (Although since she made the transition to pro author, I’m not sure she counts as a fan anymore.) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-but-you-know-you-aint-gonna/545784.md?page=2)