# Things you'd like to see on Star Trek... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 6, 2000, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875 "2000-11-06T00:48:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/61 "2000-11-07T01:41:22Z")
What I really want to see, above anything else, is someone eating something that looks halfway edible. I would also like to see a strategically designed capital ship, with immense cargo an crew capacity that could either act as a cargo transport or as an effective warship. Enough of the wussy saucer and nacelle crap. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/62 "2000-11-07T01:51:04Z")
The crew of the Enterprise putting on seatbelts before engaging in battle ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/63 "2000-11-07T02:02:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE Bo Diddly \* > \*\*We need to see more realistic ground fighting. Black clothes, body armor, _sound and light suppressors on their phasers!!!_ Haven’t these people learned anything from 20th century SWAT teams?!? > \*\* Yeah! Like, it’s the 30 sunthin’th Century. I’m sure they have ‘Starfleet Marines’. Like get a few scenes in there from Starship Troopers or something. I’d pay $8.00 to watch the invasion of a planet by Starfleet. . . ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/64 "2000-11-07T02:53:54Z")
I’d like to see a derelict, half-destroyed spacecraft which does _not_ still miraculously have a breathable atmosphere and a functioning artificial gravity system. And is there anything out there _but_ “M-class” planets/planetoids/moons? I remember that one episode of ST:V (actually, I think they had a follow-up episode later) where they found a “Demon Planet” that was–_gasp_–not habitable by Earth-type life-forms! ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/65 "2000-11-07T10:07:32Z")
Perhaps we should send a link to this thread to the writers over at Paramount. I can see them now… “Better designed ships? Say, that’s an idea…” “Edible food!! What a concept!!” “Realistic people and stories? It’s so crazy it just might work!!” ---
**Author:** ![FarrisGoldstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f17d59/32.png) [@FarrisGoldstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarrisGoldstein)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/66 "2000-11-07T10:29:46Z")
If I’m not mistaken, Paramount is accepting new scripts for Voyager up until december… We could make a collective (pardon the trek pun) effort and send in a booby script that’s REALLY fuckin’ hilarious. Also, have y’all ever read “Ask Pelgar” and “Ask K’Plett” on the official [startrek.com](http://startrek.com) site??? It’s hilarious, Onion-style advice columns… I love it. Check it out: [http://www.startrek.com/news/columns.asp](http://www.startrek.com/news/columns.asp) ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/67 "2000-11-07T15:19:09Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **SPOOFE Bo Diddly** _ > > And, as Esprix said, we need to see more “alternative lifestyles”. “Alternate lifestyles?” I thought you knew better than that - shame, shame. A lot of the kinds of stuff you folks are asking for - particularly ground assault troops and bigger space battles - _are_ addressed in some of the books. Hell, Kirk comes back from the dead in two seperate trilogies! Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2000, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/68 "2000-11-07T18:41:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by AWB \* > \*\*Some real things I’d like to see on ST: > [ul] > [li]Origin of the Borg. (Why did some race think that sticking implants all over their body was a good idea? Is this where body piercing will take us? :D)[/li]… > [li]A DS9 or a Voyager movie.[/li][/ul] \*\* I’d love to see a DS9 movie. But voyager?? nah. As far as implants, I think that’s the logical conclusion of a technology-obsessed culture, as we have today. There are already bionics and such, mainly as replacements for disabilities. There is even a brain implant that enables some blind people to see, read, and soon even drive, via a digital camera interfacing directly to the visual cortex in the brain. Not to mention the current trend towards smaller, more mobile, more interconnected portable computer equipment (wearables and PDA’s)… If the Borg really existed, I think late 20th century USA is exactly the way they would have begun: Sensible measures taken to extremes. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by FarrisGoldstein \* > \*\*Paris: Fuck you! \ > \*\* It’s a TEC-9, not tech. And you can’t ‘spray’ somebody with a semi-automatic (one trigger-pull, one round fired) handgun that’s notorious for jamming after 2 or 3 rounds anyway. Sheesh, I hate that crap. If you’re gonna try and talk tough, then at least know what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![broys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@broys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/broys)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2000, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/69 "2000-11-12T08:13:37Z")
I’d like to see an episode of Voyager where Janeway doesn’t grab her hip and shout, “DO IT.” And how the hell does Voyager get repaired so quickly? One episode they have a hole the size of a house carved out of their hull and next week they’re fine. How could they repair that?!? Geesh!!! It would take a spacedock and parts. Six years of getting the hell beat out of that ship and it looks brand new. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2000, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/70 "2000-11-12T08:30:48Z")
> [@](#): > > If I’m not mistaken, Paramount is accepting new scripts for Voyager up until december… I would have thought that they’d have the story planned out BEFORE the final season begins… maybe this explains why so many of the storylines really suck. > [@](#): > > A lot of the kinds of stuff you folks are asking for - particularly ground assault troops and bigger space battles - are addressed in some of the books. Books? Who reads books these days? 😃 Seriously, I can’t stand ST books… _reading_ “photoseismatic pulsaration tachyonal generation sub-coil” is a lot more annoying than merely _hearing_ it. ---
**Author:** ![big\_yellow\_kingswood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@big\_yellow\_kingswood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/big_yellow_kingswood)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2000, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/71 "2000-11-12T12:53:36Z")
I was really into Star Trek for about 5 years, but I’ve since lost a lot of my interest in it cause it’s all too similar. I liked the change in style of DS9 having a more continuous storyline allowing more detail and situational development. I also liked the time jump from TOS and TNG. I’d like to see a series set either far in the future, where humans are no longer politically important and the UFP has been desolved, or one set just after First Contact, where humans are just getting started on interplanetry travel and initially meeting all these aliens. I’d also prefer getting away from following the one set of crew all the time. Maybe a series of short stories set on different planets or stations or ships with different people in every episode. A few characters could be consistant in order to provide continuity, but they’d be important politicians or newsreaders or somesuch who relate each story with the overall background of the ST universe. Or maybe an entire series set in the mirror universe. Or one set on a planet that is just making first contact with the UFP. The possibilities are endless. All I can say is that the next series they make is another ‘fly around and shoot things’ like TOS, TNG or Voyager then I’ll have lost all interest completely. Are any dopers high ranking Paramount execs? I suggest you pay attention. Especially in relation to seven’s tits. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2000, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/72 "2000-11-12T14:29:18Z")
**Big\_yellow\_kingswood:** What you would like to see is called an “Anthology Series.” Many different stories with very little continuity between stories. The TV guys try an anthology series every now and then, but they usually fail pretty quickly. They make better reading than viewing. ---
**Author:** ![G.Nome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@G.Nome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.Nome)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2000, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/73 "2000-11-13T00:28:55Z")
In the future no one will wear uniforms (especially not ski pajamas) and female IQ assessment will not be based on hairstyle asymmetry i.e. the weirder the hair the more intelligent the woman. ---
**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2000, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/74 "2000-11-13T01:30:27Z")
OK, I think SPOOFE mentioned the Nebula-class as being really, really cool, and I agree. Especially since it has that big-ass weapons pod up top. Here’s my rant, though. Why the fuck do they seem to fire phasers every 15 seconds or so, and maybe a torpedo a minute? If I were captain, and I came across some enemy ship, I’d be firing phasers until the banks were ready to overload, then I’d send maybe 10 torpedoes, one right after the other, then some more continuous phaser fire, and back and forth until the enemy was blown to bits. I swear, if Starfleet didn’t stop every 5 seconds to try and call a truce or whatever the fuck they’re doing, they would have won every war they’ve fought in 5 minutes flat. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2000, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/75 "2000-11-13T04:41:32Z")
Voyager visits a planet where children are revered, and they are horrified to hear how many times Voyager has nearly been destroyed since Naomi Wildman was born. Child Protection workers seize custody of her, and the Voyager crew have a devil of a time getting her back. Re the Ferrengi: Actually, I think the Federation is amazingly tolerant of an entire race devoted to theft, swindling, smuggling and extortion. I’d like to see more of Section 31- the secret, totally amoral operatives who make the Federation’s utopia possible. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2000, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/76 "2000-11-13T23:02:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lumpy \* > \*\*I’d like to see more of Section 31- the secret, totally amoral operatives who make the Federation’s utopia possible. > > \*\* Who told you about Section 31? THERE IS NO SECTION 31!!! ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2000, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/77 "2000-11-13T23:25:39Z")
By the way, to address the lack of major boarding parties and interior ship combat… In Voyager, the ship only has a couple hundred crew members. They have no means of replacing them. If they were to show a big-time battle in the ship’s corridors, and a bunch of Redshirts got wasted, they’d have run out of crew by now, and then we wouldn’t have a Voyager series… which wouldn’t be bad in and of itself, but then there’d be no Jerri Ryan runnin’ around with only a millimeter of body-hugging cloth separating her naked flesh from our eager eyes. And a Star Trek: Special Ops series would be pretty damn spiffy. Let’s see what nifty toys the Prop people can come up with… silencers for phasers? Infiltration missions? Assassination?!? Woohoo!! > [@](#): > > I’d also prefer getting away from following the one set of crew all the time. Maybe a series of short stories set on different planets or stations or ships with different people in every episode. They already have that. It’s called “The Outer Limits”. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2000, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/78 "2000-11-13T23:32:49Z")
Star Trek Marines would be cool. Landing parties, house to house fighting without the bennie of a big starship overhead… That would be cool. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2000, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/79 "2000-11-14T00:55:19Z")
What SPOOFE said about Voyager got me thinking. How many crewmembers has Voyager lost? A few dozen? More? With a crew of only a few hundred, a couple dozen casualties is a significant loss. Shouldn’t we be seeing signs of lack of manpower by now? Especially given how frequently the Bridge and Engineering get hammered in attacks, you’d think that there would be an acute shortage of command and technical personel by now. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2000, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875/80 "2000-11-14T01:09:54Z")
Diceman, I’d assume that Starfleet would send ships out with a much larger crew than it needs. In addition, those ships are designed so that they can be operated with a relatively small number of people (like, a dozen or so), but the larger numbers are needed for maintenance, security, or secondary ship functions like transporters or science observation. As it is, I’m surprised that the Voyager scriptwriters didn’t have Voyager pick up more aliens like Neelix during their trip. In the years that they’ve been out there, they came across only two (well, five if you count them Borg kids) people that wanted to go out exploring? With all the dozens of civilizations that they came into contact with? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youd-like-to-see-on-star-trek/39875.md?page=5)