Epsicopalians (and Anglicans) are really neither (Roman) Catholic nor Protestant, but individual Anglicans run the spectrum of evangelical or mainline protestant to (Anglo-)Catholic.
Regarding the Protestant issue, the term is/was used differently by different groups. At the time of the Reformation if you weren’t swearing unconditional loyalty to the Pope the you were a Protestant, even though pretty quickly into the Reformation there were several branches of Protestantism which have continued to multiply throughout the ages. Certainly England is a bit of strange case in that it separated from Rome but considered itself Catholic (at least Henry the VIII did) but by the time Elizabeth I took the throne around 80% of the country followed principles that were considered Protestant (specifically Calvinist). By the 17th century no-one would seriously consider England a Catholic nation in any way shape or form, and whilst admittedly Anglicanism has ended up in a form that can be pretty much termed “Catholicism without the Pope”, that is the end point of an evolution of church doctrine that has gone through numerous changes over time.
Interesting that it describes Protestantism as a “Cult”… Or is there a different way of translating “culte” into English that doesn’t have the same negative connotations?
I didn’t know until a couple of hours ago that Chaucer wrote stuff besides Canterbury Tales. I feel like this is something I should have known, but no one’s ever mentioned it before. Even in English classes, it’s always “Chaucer wrote the Canterbury Tale, which blah blah blah” and not a word about his other poems.
I guess that makes the Mackinac Bridge the original “bridge to nowhere”.
You sure it’s not just the collective embarrasment? I’m Dutch, 35 and I got no more than half an hour of history on the Indonesian National Revolution (then at least still called the “police actions”) in an entire year of 20th century history.
No - my reading’s been about the Huguenot refugees that came to London.There’s a place of worship on Brick Lane that’s been a Huguenot church, a Jewish synagogue and a Muslim mosque, reflecting the different immigrant communites that have taken turns in being the main dwellers of the area, and that’s what sparked my interest. The Huguenot church was called La Neuve Eglise.
Even though I mentioned the Huguenots, I don’t think it’s actually relevant and it probably only came to mind for me because I find the Huguenots interesting. 
I mentioned it in context of asking whether all French protestants use the word temple, and it doesn’t really matter whether they did or didn’t hundreds of years ago - that doesn’t mean they might not have changed their nomenclature now.
It was in French (eglise) and English. Besides, the original assertion was that French protestants use the word temple in English.
True. And it’d be rather arseholish to tell their relatives that they weren’t really Jewish, if they identified as such and died because of their faith.
It is very interesting to discover that many people wouldn’t consider the Anglican church to be protestant, when the protestant/catholic divide has been such a big deal for so long here.
I’m not saying the people who are using a definition that excludes the Anglican churches are wrong, it’s just that I didn’t know such a definition even existed, so that’s interesting to find out; I do think they’d be wrong to tell someone who identifies as an Anglican protestant that they’re wrong about their own religion.
‘Cult’ in English has a spectrum of meanings. The Macquarie Dictionary’s first entry is the more orthodox version that simply means “religious rights”:
I just happen to have a French dictionary here, so I will give a brief translated definition of both “le culte” and “le temple.” Both of these are from the Dictionnaire Littré.
Culte:
- Religious hommage to God, another divinity, or a saint
- Religion considered from the perspective of its exterior manifestations
- Religion in general
What we would call a cult in English is usually called un secte in French.
Temple:
- Public building consacrated to to the divinity of a certain “culte.”
- The Temple at Jerusalem
- In high-falutin’ language, any Catholic church
- The religious building where Protestants do their thing
The word temple does have a link to Protestantism in French, but it’s far from universal.
You’ve named two of the big reasons my dad would have no idea. I think he would be pointedly proud not to recognize it. He thinks listening to Peter Schickele give radio lectures about classical music is a fine evening’s background audio.
Thanks for that! Certainly clears the translation up a bit. 
I’ve taught way too many people to believe that the general public would know the difference these days between those two. Too many women don’t really cook anymore, and too many men wouldn’t believe or ask someone if they didn’t know themselves.
The situation of the wife dosing the husband is too far gone, and there’s too much stuff to pay attention to. I assume that the general public will make an error like that about 30%-40% of the time. I mean, a lot of people think that -5 is bigger than -2.
Ah, yes, that would probably be a bit of Franco-French culturalism. In France, as far as I’m aware, “protestant” means either Lutheran or Calivinist, period. I.e., those churches that were founded during the Reformation, and no other. Anglicans are Anglicans, episcopalians are… I don’t know, since it’s pretty much an America-centric denomination. Most probably “episcopaliens”. And so forth.
It has little to do with the actual religious doctrine each denomination follows you understand, it’s merely a question of vocabulary. It’s probably also that way because we simply don’t have as many different strands of Christianity this side of the pond.
Hah, no :). I’m the original assertionist, and my youth was most definitely spent in France. So the original conversation was in French, translated especially for you guys. Don’t say I never do anything for you, m’dears.
Hence why I added the (French) clarification, as I’m aware the phrase “Protestants call it temple” makes no sense in an anglo-saxon context, be it linguistic or cultural. For that matter, I would expect any Brit or American would know what a protestant is in the first place ;).
Men shouldn’t cook? The woman should be dosing the husband? What era are you from?
I’m pretty sure that Cardinal didn’t mean that men shouldn’t cook or women should be dosing the husband.
They were saying that since fewer people now cook and are familiar with cooking measurements (including for reasons related to gender roles), many people are left not knowing the distinction between teaspoons and tablespoons for medication purposes.
Wow, unbelievable.
It’s really more of a mitten.
There is a game show on Basque TV we like to watch. They’ve had to eliminate any Biblic or religious questions because people fail “what is the first book in the Bible?”, “what is the name of Islam’s greatest prophet?” and “what are the names of the four Gospel writers?” I understand the breaking point was when someone failed “what were the names of Jesus’ parents?” And I don’t mean that they went into a theological discussion.
mrAru is episcopalian and refers to himself as Catholic Lite
I had an argument with a friend of mine over the date for Christmas Day. He insisted for 30 seconds that it was on the 24th until he started to come around with, “The 25th? Really? Huh.”
And he’s the Christian, not me!
Hey, I know how to do that.
See, when the gas station guy asks you, “Want me to check your oil?”, you say, “Sure” - and it gets done!