# Things you're SURE wll happen in the upcoming Harry Potter novels **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 5, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716 "2003-01-05T03:38:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/121 "2003-01-12T03:49:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Dont think so. James would be in his early 40s but Whatsis is about 68 Ah, OK. Still, it’s quite possible that James Potter and He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named-Because-We’re-All-A-Bunch-Of-Scardy-Cats-And-We’re-Afraid-That-He-Might-Be-Nearby-And-Hear-Us could be related. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/122 "2003-01-12T03:50:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ILENSER \* > \*\*Snape loved Harry’s mother, Lilly. > I’m sure the order of Lilly and James came out of the wand IS a plot point, it was spoke of twice in the book. \*\* Really? Where? (Except for the actual event, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![ILENSER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/977dab/32.png) [@ILENSER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ILENSER)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/123 "2003-01-12T03:57:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diceman \* > \*\*Ah, OK. Still, it’s quite possible that James Potter and He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named-Because-We’re-All-A-Bunch-Of-Scardy-Cats-And-We’re-Afraid-That-He-Might-Be-Nearby-And-Hear-Us could be related. \*\* I think they’re related, but not brothers. ---
**Author:** ![ILENSER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/977dab/32.png) [@ILENSER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ILENSER)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/124 "2003-01-12T04:01:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by KKBattousai \* > \*\*Really? Where? (Except for the actual event, of course.) \*\* 1st in Flesh, Blood And Bone 2nd in The Parting Of The Ways ---
**Author:** ![ILENSER](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/977dab/32.png) [@ILENSER](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ILENSER)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/125 "2003-01-12T04:06:20Z")
opps ,1st time in Prioriti Incantatem 2nd in The Parting Of The Ways ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/126 "2003-01-12T07:30:07Z")
—I’m sure the order of Lilly and James came out of the wand IS a plot point, it was spoke of twice in the book.— Rowling has admitted that this was an unintentional mistake, and later versions of the book are supposed to have corrected it (i.e., Lily comes out before James). ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/127 "2003-01-12T13:10:39Z")
I’ll make one safe prediction… Neville will end up doing what he does best and teaching herbology at Hogwarts. Best to keep the predictions simple. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/128 "2003-01-13T07:29:26Z")
Finally, a date for the next book: this July. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/129 "2003-01-13T12:59:34Z")
Where’s that coming from? ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/130 "2003-01-13T16:14:28Z")
[http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?mnu=news&ptitle=Technology%20UK&tp=ad\_uknews&T=news\_storypage99.ht&ad=uktechnology&s=APh2njBZ2Qmxvb21z](http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?mnu=news&ptitle=Technology%20UK&tp=ad_uknews&T=news_storypage99.ht&ad=uktechnology&s=APh2njBZ2Qmxvb21z) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/131 "2003-01-13T17:45:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Apos \* > \*\*—I’m sure the order of Lilly and James came out of the wand IS a plot point, it was spoke of twice in the book.— > > Rowling has admitted that this was an unintentional mistake, and later versions of the book are supposed to have corrected it (i.e., Lily comes out before James). \*\* I can confirm that. I got the book (_Goblet of Fire_) when it was first released, and wore it out over the course of several months. My replacement copy, obtained last summer, has the order changed to reflect the (reversed) order of the deaths of Lily and James. We’re definitely going to learn that Sybil Trelawney’s _other_ true prediction is what prompted Voldemort to target Harry for destruction. We may find the maiden name of Tom Riddle’s paternal grandmother. And it may turn out to be Dursley. This could have _very_ interesting repercussions. For instance, if Trelawney’s prediction leads Voldemort to understand that a blood relative of Lily’s will cause his downfall it will make it possible for _Dudley_ to wander in at some point, stumble over a tripwire, and make an anvil fall on Voldemort’s head, reducing him to a Yosemite Sam-like walking disk (flattened hat, with two large shoes sticking out, scurrying around in circles). Or something. ---
**Author:** ![Payne\_N.Diaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Payne\_N.Diaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Payne_N.Diaz)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/132 "2003-01-13T17:58:26Z")
Based on Dudley’s current, um, physical condition (fat) maybe if _he_ fell on Voldemort… ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/133 "2003-01-13T18:38:12Z")
I’d send Rowling a $100 if she did that. ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/134 "2003-01-13T20:42:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ILENSER \* > \*\*opps ,1st time in Prioriti Incantatem > > 2nd in The Parting Of The Ways \*\* In light of recent posts, is it safe to say that you were referring to discussion of the spell/effect, and not the actual order of Lily and James’s appearance? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/135 "2003-01-13T21:49:13Z")
Could Harry’s father have been a Death Eater, do you think? I’ve played with Harry’s name before, but none of the anagrams (REAR THY PROP, TRY APT HERO) speak to the relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/136 "2003-01-13T21:54:21Z")
Characters who scream “Marked for Death” to me (besides Voldemort, obviously): 1. Dumbledore 2. Arthur Weasley 3. Snape 4. Hagrid Characters I find to be likely, but not definite possibilities for death: 5. Fred/George Weasley (They seem ripe for a ‘goof offs who get their act together and end up dying nobley’ storyline, especially if somone in their family gets offed) 6. Neville (doing something disgustingly brave) 7. Sirius 8. Dobby ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/137 "2003-01-13T22:11:41Z")
> [@](#): > > ) Neville (doing something disgustingly brave) You can’t kill of Longbottom, he’s the last of the Longbottoms that can have kids. Without him, we’d be swimming in Halfbottoms and Shortbottoms! Plus, he has to marry Hermione! ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/138 "2003-01-13T22:21:34Z")
—Arthur Weasley— I’d actually suggest his wife is more likely. Rowling has some real personal issues with mother figures dying, and Mrs. Weasely is the closest thing to a beloved mother that Harry has. Her death would REALLY piss him off (not to mention Ron). —3) Snape— Don’t think so, unless at the very, very end. I’d like to see some character development with Snape and his relationship towards Harry: a respect and friendship, gruding or no. —4) Hagrid— Maybe: the actor playing him has been oddly quiet about whether or not he is contracted for all 7 films… I think his answer was a cryptic “sorta” —Fred/George Weasley— I’d say no unless there’s some apocalypse in which many or most characters die. They HAVE gotten their acts together: they have a dream, and they’re working towards it. —3) Sirius— You probably need Sirius alive for a truly happy ending (he’s Harry’s best bet at a remaining father figure at the end) so it all depends. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/139 "2003-01-13T22:50:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by arisu \* > \*\*4) Dobby \*\* Oh, please, Ms. Rowling, pretty please?!?!? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2003, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716/140 "2003-01-13T23:07:05Z")
Snape and Neville are so marked, you might as well paint bull’s-eyes on their chests. Both will probably do something to save Harry before they die. No guess on whether it’ll be sooner or later, however. I’ve already predicted Dumbledore’s death, and I’ll go further and predict that it’ll be in book 5. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youre-sure-wll-happen-in-the-upcoming-harry-potter-novels/146716.md?page=8)