# Things you've rewatched after years and have held up, things that have not **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, movies\ **Created:** [May 2, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064 "2024-05-02T12:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/401 "2024-07-12T20:53:45Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > On the other hand, I’m one of those PITA types who point out actors and their other roles — **Sharona was in _A League of Their Own_** — to which my wife says _I’m tryina watch the movie_. Have you not learned to shut up and just watch? My wife HATES any interruption (even if I’m educating her about how Non-Cinematic Science works). I’m almost domesticated in this regard, in that I now save 90% of my being a smartypants until the credits are rolling. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/402 "2024-07-12T21:20:59Z")
You know, that’ll probably work for me because when the credits start to roll, she’s outta there. Got a nose to powder. Meanwhile, I’m channeling Homer Simpson: “A lot of people worked hard on this film, and all they ask is for you to memorize their names.“ ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/403 "2024-07-12T21:30:24Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > On the other hand, I’m one of those PITA types who point out actors and their other roles — **Sharona was in _A League of Their Own_** — to which my wife says _I’m tryina watch the movie_. I’m with your wife on this, at least when I’m trying to watch a movie “seriously.” It’s the kind of thing that takes me out of the movie and makes it harder to suspend disbelief, just a little. I want to look at the screen and see _that character_, not that _actor_ and/or other characters they’ve played in the past. After the movie’s over, that’s when you can focus on who played what, what else you know them from, etc. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/404 "2024-07-12T23:29:44Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > **Sharona was in _A League of Their Own_** Yeah, she was the one the “There’s no crying in baseball” line was directed at. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/405 "2024-07-13T00:53:32Z")
You see? You see? The Doxie does it, too! Maybe it’s a canine malady. To the vet’s! ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/406 "2024-07-13T01:24:49Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > A more interesting question to me is motivation. When Tiger’s ninjas attack the lair, Blofeld has his own troops fighting them off. What’s in it for those guys? It’s one thing to hire mercenaries, But once they were clearly outnumbered, no amount of money is worth getting killed. This has happened in countless fiIms. I once suggested a trope to cover that over at TV Tropes–couldn’t think of a good title, and my suggestion sunk without a trace. They have Mook Chivalry, but that is for when they politely fight the hero one at a time. So Unbreakable Mook Morale? Soldiers would have both camraderie and honor (can’t abandon your buddies) and fanaticism for a cause or deep loyalty to their country to keep them going, but even they often break and run. Mooks of the above sort tho may be fanatics in some cases, but more often they are just hired goons/mercenaries; once it is clear the fight is a losing one, yeah there is nothing to keep them in the fight. Actually it is hard for me to think of examples of morale breaking even in war movies or TV shows; when part of Easy Company’s battalion broke in one episode of Band of Brothers in the face of a German tank assault it was rather jarring because as viewers we expect both sides to stick it out to the bitter end. But it is kind of boring and anticlimatic to have that happen in fiction. [In the ep. the cavalry arrived in time in the form of the 2nd Armored Division] ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/407 "2024-07-13T01:31:32Z")
> [@iamatractorboy](#): > > Ha, love it. You are right to point out the distinct lack of canteen facilities inside the volcano. Maybe they just had an airdrop of supplies by helicopter once a week. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Sv5iEK-IEzw/hqdefault.jpg "Suzy Eddie Izzard- Death Star Canteen") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv5iEK-IEzw) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/408 "2024-07-13T02:51:53Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Which reminds me: the cleanup of the lab was just as silly as the pigeon double-take. Not only would it be hard if not impossible to do in the time available, why bother? So Bond looks delusional. But (in any other Bond film - can’t remember his reaction here) M knows he isn’t delusional, and M is the only one that matters. If the Italian Carabinieri had discovered a lab full of nerve gas, they’d slap the cuffs on Drax then and there. Turning it into an office buys him a bit deniability. He’s going to be launching to his space station in ust a couple days; the ruse could buy him just the time he needs. In a way, I have to kind of respect how well Bond villains do contingency planning. To go back to _You Only Live Twice_, Blofeld has a small commando force to defend his volcano (even though no one is supposed to know it’s there), self-destruct charges on his spacecraft (even though there’s no benefit to blowing it up), and a personal escape plan (enabled by people who’ll be left behind to die). > [@John\_DiFool](#): > > This has happened in countless fiIms. I once suggested a trope to cover that over at TV Tropes–couldn’t think of a good title, and my suggestion sunk without a trace. How about: **Canon Fodder** - The soldiers/mercenaries who continue fighting so that an action movie will have a big action scene, rather than for any ideological reason. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/409 "2024-07-13T03:46:13Z")
When I looked up “conservation of ninjitsu” on TVTropes, it linked to “cannon fodder” but the page for this is entitled [Mooks](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Mooks). Various examples abound. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/410 "2024-07-13T14:19:22Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I mean, you have to provide meals, or else every day at lunchtime you’re got hundreds of guys in matching jumpsuits wandering around the nearby Japanese fishing village and blabbing about their Secret Rocket Kidnapping Headquarters. I’m reminded of a _Kim Possible_ scene where Ron opened a door in Drakken’s lair and found a lounge with a bunch of his mooks hanging out shooting the breeze. ---
**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/411 "2024-07-13T16:47:48Z")
While scouting locations for the _Quatermass II_ TV serial at Shellhaven, then under construction, the scriptwriter found that the workforce didnt know what they were building, and weren’t greatly interested either, as long as they got paid every Friday, and some of that was incorporated into the script. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/412 "2024-07-13T21:25:10Z")
> [@Mk\_VII](#): > > While scouting locations for the _Quatermass II_ TV serial at Shellhaven, then under construction, the scriptwriter found that the workforce didnt know what they were building, and weren’t greatly interested either, as long as they got paid every Friday, and some of that was incorporated into the script. Hank Scorpio gave really good benefits. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/413 "2024-07-15T15:11:25Z")
You mean the Scorpio from the Hammock District? ---
**Author:** ![XOldiesJock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ec9cab/32.png) [@XOldiesJock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XOldiesJock)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/414 "2024-07-15T17:06:30Z")
Saturday night, we watched John Waters’ 1994 comedy **Serial Mom,** which we haven’t seen in 30 years. We once again were delighted. Kathleen Turner is magnificently malevolent as the prim suburban Baltimore housewife who viciously murders anyone who dares upset her perfect life in any way. The murders are all pretty funny, especially the one in the men’s room, when she keeps slipping on this one poor guy’s liver, which she has extracted with a fireplace poker. She’s finally tried for the killings, and that slows down the momentum a bit, but there are plenty of laughs in between if you’re up for it. John Waters is now semi-retired. That makes me sad. I really miss his twisted sense of humor. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/415 "2024-07-15T17:14:27Z")
I just saw the 4K restoration of **Seven Samurai** in a packed house (Sunday matinee). It not only holds up, but it remains one of the greatest films ever made. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/416 "2024-07-15T17:20:56Z")
Oh yeah, saw that one in the theater last year. It’s still one of the greats. and @XOldiesJock , yeah, Serial Mom holds up pretty well, too. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/417 "2024-07-15T19:00:27Z")
> [@peccavi](#): > > I just saw the 4K restoration of **Seven Samurai** in a packed house (Sunday matinee). It not only holds up, but it remains one of the greatest films ever made. Oh yeah. Still solid. ---
**Author:** ![eburacum45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum45/32/8690_2.png) [@eburacum45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum45)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/418 "2024-07-15T19:24:16Z")
> [@Mk\_VII](#): > > While scouting locations for the _Quatermass II_ TV serial at Shellhaven, then under construction, the scriptwriter found that the workforce didnt know what they were building, and weren’t greatly interested either, as long as they got paid every Friday, and some of that was incorporated into the script. I like the movies The Quatermass Experiment and Quatermass and the Pit, but Quatermass II really doesn’t stand up to scrutiny today. It seems to tap into anxieties about oil refineries and new towns, things that were not really earth-shattering threats then, nor are they now. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/419 "2024-07-15T20:52:28Z")
> [@eburacum45](#): > > > [@Mk\_VII](#): > > > > While scouting locations for the _Quatermass II_ TV serial at Shellhaven, then under construction, the scriptwriter found that the workforce didnt know what they were building, and weren’t greatly interested either, as long as they got paid every Friday, and some of that was incorporated into the script. > > I like the movies The Quatermass Experiment and Quatermass and the Pit, but Quatermass II really doesn’t stand up to scrutiny today. It seems to tap into anxieties about oil refineries and new towns, things that were not really earth-shattering threats then, nor are they now. I’ve never seen anything other than _Quatermas and the Pit._ Despite its low budget and bad special effects I found it to be very creepy and unsettling. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064/420 "2024-07-15T20:54:25Z")
In honor of the passing of James Sikking I’ll mention _Hill Street Blues._ It’s setting was certainly of its time but I think it holds up extremely well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/things-youve-rewatched-after-years-and-have-held-up-things-that-have-not/1001064.md?page=22)