# Think KFC's Double Down is bad? This makes it look like health food! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 19, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262 "2010-07-19T19:49:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/41 "2010-07-21T23:18:59Z")
That’s nothing! Here’s [woven bacon stuffed with cheese!](http://www.holytaco.com/if-i-die-bacon-related-death-id-it-be-because) No, still too rabbit-foody, right? Try a [woven-bacon-and-sausage log.](http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/dining/28bacon.html) Not quite perfection . . . there’s still some **lean** bits in there . . . Eureka! [**CHUNKS OF RAW HOG LARD COVERED IN CHOCOLATE!!!**](http://onlyinukraine.blogspot.com/2005/12/chocolate-covered-salo-my-favorite.html) ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/42 "2010-07-21T23:35:47Z")
Well, a bar I frequent has a sandwich called The Dobbie, named after one of the frequent patrons. It is basically a french dip, cheese, with a spicy ailoi, center cut bacon,and two fried eggs. And it is AWESOME! Not nearly as outrageous, but it isn’t standard fare either. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/43 "2010-07-21T23:41:26Z")
My 16 y.o. daughter weighs about 105 lbs. and frequently mentions wanting to eat healthy. Last week she finished her work shift at 9:15 and wanted some food before going home. The [Steak n’ Shake Frisco Melt](http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r89/jinky0u812/Food/?action=view¤t=friscomelt1.jpg). With fries and a shake. The next morning her mom told her the Frisco Melt has 1200 calories. And it has 93 grams of fat. That broke the young thing’s heart. She really liked the Frisco Melt. With the fries and shake the meal is about 2300 calories and 135 gms of fat. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/44 "2010-07-22T00:00:06Z")
> [@rhubarbarin](#): > > I eat a home-made Double-Down all the time (skin-on chicken with extra bacon, smothered with cheese). I’ve never tried the KFC version. > > I eat high fat, moderate protein, low-carb. Best thing for a human to do if you want to be healthy, strong, and lean. > > Obviously I wouldn’t touch that Friendly’s bread-fest. 106g carbs is about my daily average! Looks tasty though… I used to love grilled cheese sandwiches on rye bread. I think ‘‘high fat’’ gets the shaft nowadays. As my nutritionist told me, ‘‘Fat doesn’t make you fat. Sugar makes you fat.’’ That’s an oversimplification, but fat is, on the whole, more filling and really okay as long as you don’t over do it. Calorically, the Double Down is… well, there’s worse. You can easily fit 540 calories into a 1500 calorie day with a little finagling. But I’ll bet your home version is way healthier than the KFC version. All the salt and processed meat. I dunno what it is about KFC, but it takes approximately 5 minutes to travel my digestive system, therefore I avoid. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/45 "2010-07-22T00:15:42Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > But I’ll bet your home version is way healthier than the KFC version. All the salt and processed meat. I dunno what it is about KFC, but it takes approximately 5 minutes to travel my digestive system, therefore I avoid. Fast food, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/46 "2010-07-22T14:38:47Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > Taste is a horrible indicator of sodium content. A cup of cottage cheese has several times more sodium than an order of fries. It’s helpful to note that 1 cup of cottage cheese is not equivalent in weight to a small order of McDonald’s french fries and that the sodium content in McDonald’s french fries is highly variable. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/47 "2010-07-22T14:55:17Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [**CHUNKS OF RAW HOG LARD COVERED IN CHOCOLATE!!!**](http://onlyinukraine.blogspot.com/2005/12/chocolate-covered-salo-my-favorite.html) You know, if they just rolled that in bacon salt at the end it would be perfect. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/48 "2010-07-22T15:03:58Z")
1500 calories? Holy shit, that is 300 cal less than I eat in an entire day :eek: Not to mention how long I would be on the crapper with the shits from that much fat :eek: Hell, I get guilty if I put 2 pieces of bacon on a toasted cheese sandwich ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/49 "2010-07-22T17:23:33Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > The next morning her mom told her the Frisco Melt has 1200 calories. And it has 93 grams of fat. > > That broke the young thing’s heart. She really liked the Frisco Melt. > > With the fries and shake the meal is about 2300 calories and 135 gms of fat. Hmmm. SNS webpage says 800 calories for the sandwich, 60 grams of fat. Regular fries and a regular choc. shake will add 440 and 710 cals. respectively. [http://sns-com.s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs/nutritional20100528.pdf](http://sns-com.s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs/nutritional20100528.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/50 "2010-07-22T17:42:27Z")
The Orange County Fair is going on right now, where you can get deep-fried butter. That’s right - they take a churro, fill it with a butter and cream cheese mixture, then deep fry it. [http://foodfrenzy.ocregister.com/2010/07/21/deep-fried-butter-and-more-at-heart-attack-cafe/21685/](http://foodfrenzy.ocregister.com/2010/07/21/deep-fried-butter-and-more-at-heart-attack-cafe/21685/) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/51 "2010-07-22T18:14:16Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > I want to rant against the food industry, but ya know… this is how people want to eat. They are choosing this. I don’t get it, but obviously there would be no product to move if there weren’t people to eat it. > > This is the first time I’ve ever heard of the ‘‘Double Down’’ at KFC. Blargh. This isn’t so much of a rant as a “WTF?!?! That’s DISGUSTING!!!” I’m just in awe of whoever manages to come UP with this kind of shit. And to think I felt guilty for dipping crackers in hummus instead of mushrooms. (I think someone started a thread about deep-fried butter awhile ago. Blech.) ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/52 "2010-07-22T18:16:27Z")
> [@Algher](#): > > The Orange County Fair is going on right now, where you can get deep-fried butter. That’s right - they take a churro, fill it with a butter and cream cheese mixture, then deep fry it. > > [http://foodfrenzy.ocregister.com/2010/07/21/deep-fried-butter-and-more-at-heart-attack-cafe/21685/](http://foodfrenzy.ocregister.com/2010/07/21/deep-fried-butter-and-more-at-heart-attack-cafe/21685/) Paula Deen skipped the “healthy” churro part and just [makes a breading for her deep-fried butter balls](http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/paula-deen/paulas-fried-butter-balls-recipe/index.html). ---
**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/53 "2010-07-22T18:19:02Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [woven bacon stuffed with cheese!](http://www.holytaco.com/if-i-die-bacon-related-death-id-it-be-because) This is to comfort food what Monica Bellucci is to women. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/54 "2010-07-22T18:22:00Z")
> [@Khaki\_Campbell](#): > > This is to comfort food what Monica Bellucci is to women. It’s not going to stay “comfort food” for long, though. ---
**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/55 "2010-07-22T18:23:42Z")
Uh ? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/56 "2010-07-22T18:24:37Z")
> [@Khaki\_Campbell](#): > > Uh ? Think about it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/57 "2010-07-22T18:36:23Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > It’s helpful to note that 1 cup of cottage cheese is not equivalent in weight to a small order of McDonald’s french fries and that the sodium content in McDonald’s french fries is highly variable. Most people don’t weigh food before eating, so compare the fries to half a cup of cottage cheese (considered a standard serving) and the fries still have less sodium by a large margin. My point is not that fries are a more healthful alternative, but merely that salty and bland tastes are not reliable indicators of sodium content. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/58 "2010-07-22T18:49:59Z")
> [@Huerta88](#): > > Hmmm. SNS webpage says 800 calories for the sandwich, 60 grams of fat. > > Regular fries and a regular choc. shake will add 440 and 710 cals. respectively. > > [http://sns-com.s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs/nutritional20100528.pdf](http://sns-com.s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs/nutritional20100528.pdf) That’s good news, I suppose. I was going by the info on some other sites: [Calorie Lab](http://calorielab.com/restaurants/steak-n-shake/frisco-melt/54/48206) [The Daily Plate](http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/steak--n-shake) [CalorieCount](http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-steak-n-frisco-melt-i55827) And [livestrong.com](http://livestrong.com) which lists 780 calories if you order the melt w/o dressing. But I’ll believe the official site. I encountered some problems at the other places. (The figures given were the same for a “sandwich” and a “meal”.) They may well all be referencing a single incorrect source. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/59 "2010-07-22T20:56:20Z")
Still healthier than [pork brains.](http://blog.lib.umn.edu/hick0247/engl1501w/pork-brains-milk-gravy.jpg) There is no god. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262/60 "2010-07-22T21:18:45Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > Still healthier than [pork brains.](http://blog.lib.umn.edu/hick0247/engl1501w/pork-brains-milk-gravy.jpg) > > There is no god. How can that thing have 150 calories for 2/3 a cup and 1100% cholesterol? I’d try pork brains, but not when they’re prepared like that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-kfcs-double-down-is-bad-this-makes-it-look-like-health-food/547262.md?page=2)