# Think maybe we're going a little too far with sanctions against Russia? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion\ **Created:** [March 14, 2022, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004 "2022-03-14T03:39:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/41 "2022-03-21T23:03:28Z")
After the Russians bombed that theater that had “CHILDREN” written on the sides… yeah, fuck the fucking fuckers. I hope their economy _never_ recovers. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/42 "2022-03-21T23:45:49Z")
Canada to impose new Russian sanctions: Personally, I think we need to put as many sanctions on as possible. We need to squeeze Russia HARD right now, so that those in Putin’s orbit see that the only way out of this mess is to “retire” Putin as soon as possible. The face-saving for them is that they can blame the whole mess on one “madman” and ask to please go back to the way things were before. > **[Russia-Ukraine updates: Here’s what happened on March 21](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-russia-ukraine-live-updates-no-breakthrough-peace-talks/)** > > Also: At least eight dead after shelling of Kyiv shopping centre ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/43 "2022-03-23T12:26:52Z")
I think the sanctions should be universal, permanent, and total. No other country has trade with Russia or allows Russians into their country. They should be a pariah state and every nation should cut diplomatic ties, oust them from the UN, disable all their internet connections with the world, never let them play in the Olympics again. Getting rid of Putin is just going to give them another dictator. They’ve proven they can’t handle democracy and never will. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/44 "2022-03-23T12:29:44Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > No other country has trade with Russia or allows Russians into their country. No Russian dissidents or refugees? That’s harsh. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/45 "2022-03-23T12:37:39Z")
Started already: [https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russians-blocked-us-border-ukrainians-admitted-83538297](https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russians-blocked-us-border-ukrainians-admitted-83538297) ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/46 "2022-03-23T12:57:26Z")
The real tragedy is that it seems to be Ukrainians, not Russians, who are the exception in that scenario. That is to say, it seems the standard treatment for people coming to the US in search of refuge (and most especially if coming up from the south) is “F U, w8 in lin3.” Not happy about it myself. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/47 "2022-03-23T13:06:40Z")
Let me also echo the statement of “boo fucking hoo” regarding affluent Russians stranded at beach resorts while their country steers the world toward World War III. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/48 "2022-03-23T13:18:53Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > no country has trade with Russia ummm. you do realize that unless they buy oil and gas from Russia, a hundred million people in Germany and Europe will freeze to death this winter? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/49 "2022-03-23T13:22:43Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > a hundred million people in Germany and Europe will freeze to death this winter? Really? 100 million deaths seems a little bit high… ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/50 "2022-03-23T13:25:16Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Think maybe we should find a way to cut _these specific people_ a break, or screw 'em? It’s not just Russians who are affected … > **[War broke out while she was on vacation. Now in Canada, this Ukrainian can't...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ukrainian-tourists-stuck-in-canada-1.6385931)** > > When Svitlana Trofymchuk came to visit friends in Toronto last month, she didn't expect her city to be the target of a Russian invasion. She's now hoping to obtain a temporary work permit to make ends meet while she's in Canada. Personally I tend to have a lot more sympathy for innocent victims like this than for those who, collectively, have implicitly been supporting or at least tolerating Putin’s tyranny. Anyone who happened to see that (unsurprisingly) Trump-style rally that Putin held in Moscow recently, complete with hundreds of waving Russian flags and their attempt at rock music, while innocent Ukrainians are dying, would understand that many of them openly support the war and consider themselves patriots for doing so. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/51 "2022-03-23T13:26:05Z")
100,000,000 seems a little high to me. I think Europe needs to wean itself out from dependency on Russian oil. Maybe in the short term there will be sky high prices and some reversion back to dirtier forms of heating but if buying Russian oil supports genocide then it has to stop. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004/52 "2022-03-23T15:17:49Z")
No one really knows the long term effects of these sanctions and how much they will disrupt energy markets. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-maybe-were-going-a-little-too-far-with-sanctions-against-russia/961004.md?page=2)