# Think of a British city that isn't London

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 11, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298 "2015-10-11T16:46:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/81 "2015-10-13T09:01:47Z")

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As a Mancunian I’m feeling the love right now

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/82 "2015-10-13T10:12:48Z")

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Reading.

It’s where the fella was from.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/83 "2015-10-13T11:44:10Z")

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> [@Ryan\_Liam](#):
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> As a Mancunian I’m feeling the love right now

Well, it makes a difference from the rain, right? 😃

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**Author:** ![APB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@APB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/APB)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/84 "2015-10-13T14:21:02Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> Your ceremonial head for the year gets to be called “Lord Mayor” instead of just plain old “Mayor”. Cue fancy new regalia (if you can get away with it).

[nitpick] All places in England, Wales and Northern Ireland that have a lord mayor are cities, but not all cities have a mayor who is a lord mayor. The right to have one is granted separately. It tends to be given only to the larger cities. Same with the title of lord provost in Scotland. [/nitpick]

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/85 "2015-10-13T14:31:42Z")

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Dover. I think of it whenever we go out for fish 'n chips, which happened to be just this weekend. I loved the cliffs, Roman architecture, history, especially during the war.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/86 "2015-10-13T15:00:20Z")

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Manchester, Liverpool, then Dover.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/87 "2015-10-13T15:08:32Z")

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Birmingham was my first thought, and I have no idea why. I don’t know of anyone or anything having come from there, and I can’t even say for sure which nation of the UK it’s in. Plenty of other places, I can think of those things (the Beatles were from Liverpool, Edinburgh is the principle city of Scotland, and so forth), but they didn’t come to mind.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/88 "2015-10-13T15:22:19Z")

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If we’re counting towns as cities, then Yeovil, since I was born there. If we’re not, then Birmingham.

> [@Dereknocue67](#):
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> Skelmersdale, north of Liverpool.

> [@nicky](#):
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> Cities, not obscure hamlets outside villages.

> [@Dereknocue67](#):
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> I believe you insulted the 38,000+ people residing there. I’ve been there and it is clearly a city.

It’s a [town](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skelmersdale).

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/89 "2015-10-13T16:54:48Z")

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Edinburgh.

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**Author:** ![journeyman\_southpaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5e9695/32.png) [@journeyman\_southpaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/journeyman_southpaw)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/90 "2015-10-13T17:32:44Z")

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Birmingham because Black Sabbath are from there, which means I’ve read a fair bit about what Birmingham was like in the '60s.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/91 "2015-10-13T17:49:43Z")

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Liverpool, cuz of the Beatles.

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**Author:** ![AHarris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@AHarris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHarris)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/92 "2015-10-13T18:13:30Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> And no-one has mentioned Edinburgh or Glasgow?

Those were the first ones that came to mind for me.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/93 "2015-10-13T18:38:35Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I thought of Manchester and Birmingham simultaneously, but the only reason I thought of the latter was because I lived in nearby Wolverhampton for a few months about twenty years ago. Before I moved there, I never even knew of its existence, despite it being the second largest UK city (and despite being a Smiths fan–I guess I never paid much attention to the lyrics “Panic on the streets of London/panic on the streets of Birmingham.”)

Both cities have produced a lot of popular musical acts. Birmingham was home to Black Sabbath, the Moody Blues, ELO/the Move, Judas Priest…

Manchester gave us the Hollies, Oasis, Davy Jones, Herman’s Hermits, Simply Red, Freddie and the Dreamers…

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/94 "2015-10-13T19:06:03Z")

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The Moody Blues, Duran Duran and ELO were from Birmingham, too. And half of Zeppelin (Bonham and Plant) were Brummies.

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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/95 "2015-10-13T19:10:41Z")

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The first British city I think of is Norwich, for the same reason that the first Australian city I think of is Bacchus Marsh.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/96 "2015-10-13T19:21:57Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The Moody Blues, Duran Duran and ELO were from Birmingham, too. And half of Zeppelin (Bonham and Plant) were Brummies.

Plant is a West Brom fan for what its worth…not sure what this means as far as his hometown but apart from contemptible bandwagoners like Liverpool and Man U fans the English usually stay loyal to their childhood clubs.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/97 "2015-10-13T19:29:03Z")

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Winchester, one of my favourite cities in the UK.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/98 "2015-10-13T20:24:11Z")

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Manchester.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/99 "2015-10-13T21:08:58Z")

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Manchester.

I’m not sure why, as it has no particular connotation for me.

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**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-british-city-that-isnt-london/734298/100 "2015-10-13T21:49:51Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Plant is a West Brom fan for what its worth…not sure what this means as far as his hometown but apart from contemptible bandwagoners like Liverpool and Man U fans the English usually stay loyal to their childhood clubs.

Well, West Brom counts as part of Birmingham to me. I mean, technically it’s the West Midlands but it’s all Brum really.

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