# Think of a figure who lived BCE

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**Created:** [July 20, 2016, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-figure-who-lived-bce/760404 "2016-07-20T07:25:43Z")\
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Plato

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> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#):
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> Last one of these, promise - but taking it back a while. Who is the first figure to come to mind who lived before 1 BCE? Got a feeling that this will be a landslide and the figure that sprang to mind for me will be the same as it is for you, so I want to see how justified this inkling is.
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> The figure I thought of straight away was Julius Caesar, the Roman geezer.

I actually thought of Augustus first.

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Cleopatra and then Hammurabi, in that order, came to mind.

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The Buddha.

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Aristotle

I wonder why he seems to be a common choice.

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Outside of Old Testament characters, Socrates

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Pythagoras.

I’m a math teacher…

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Cicero - and have no idea why

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Tutankhamun

About six pharaonic names slid through my mind as I read the question. I’ll go with Seti II.

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Alexander the Great, again. After all, he’s great.

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Big Julie (thanks to Wayne & Shuster) jumped to my mind instantly.

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> My first thought was Archimedes, probably because I recently had cause to look up exactly when he lived.

Ooh, I think I can do Archimedes without looking him up. He died at the Roman capture of Syracuse, 212 BC. And he was pretty old at that point, probably over 70. I’m guessing he was born around 285 BC.

_looks up_

Wiki has him at ca. 287 BC - 212 BC. I’m awarding myself the point for that one.

(What? Yes, in fact, I am great fun at parties. Why do you ask? Actually, though, I’m usually crap at dates.)

As for the OP: My top three are Caesar, Hannibal (just because I’m into the Punic Wars at the moment), Alexander. After that, it’s a toss-up between a ton of people.

> [@davida03801](#):
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> Vertimourix

Vercingetorix?

> [@Gordon\_Urquhart](#):
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> Alexander the Great, again. After all, he’s great.

Well, he’s all right. 😉

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> Tutankhamun

Yeah, that was mine as well.

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Plato, the father of Western philosophy.

But then I’m a big fan of ancient Greek culture.

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gautama buddha

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The one I know best is Lao-Tze. Funny I didn’t think of him sooner.

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> [@Eliahna](#):
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> Two for Tut.

Three

I guess my interpretation was who do we have the most evidence that they existed BCE.

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Shamgar. From the Book of Judges (he killed a bunch of Philistines with an ox-goad).

He was kind of a running joke between me and a friend way back in the day for having two lines about him (“Shamgar who slew 600 (?) Philistines with an ox-goad. He too saved Israel.”) and that’s it. Badass enough to get mentioned but not enough to get a third line.

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Hammurabi for me.

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Themistocles.

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