# Think of a new name for mincemeat pie **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 27, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959 "2013-11-27T22:45:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/21 "2013-11-29T07:42:45Z")
Note that in this context “meat” just has its antique meaning of “food” generally, not “animal flesh”. Suet, unqualified, is indeed meat fat, but so is lard, and no-one particularly thinks of, say, pastry as having meat in it even if it was made with lard. Vegans and members of several religions will beg to differ, naturally. As mentioned above, in the UK a mince pie contains mincemeat, whereas a pie made with a mince filling is another matter entirely. Tradition! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/22 "2013-11-29T09:56:23Z")
“Christmas Pies”? We just call them mince pies here. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/23 "2013-11-29T10:32:27Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > As mentioned above, in the UK a mince pie contains mincemeat, whereas a pie made with a mince filling is another matter entirely. Tradition! 😃 Which is what confuses people, I think, as ‘mincemeat’ doesn’t actually contain any meat. I think they used to have meat in them, back in the mists of time, a meat and fruit pie with exotic spices, which isn’t that weird when you look at moroccan and middle eastern cuisine. I wonder if it’s an inheritance from the crusades? [Ha I was right!](http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/features/sweet-delight-a-brief-history-of-the-mince-pie-6270572.html) > [@](#): > > Spicy meat pies have been relished in England ever since the Crusaders brought spices back from the Middle East in the 12th century. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/24 "2013-11-29T11:02:14Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > Note that in this context “meat” just has its antique meaning of “food” generally, not “animal flesh”. Suet, unqualified, is indeed meat fat, but so is lard, and no-one particularly thinks of, say, pastry as having meat in it even if it was made with lard. Vegans and members of several religions will beg to differ, naturally. Catholics, for instance. Back in the days of no meat on Friday, it was the leftover pie we didn’t get to eat the day after Thanksgiving. I’m okay with renaming it “raisin pie.” And I am really not getting the raisin-hate. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/25 "2013-11-29T16:16:08Z")
Once when I was a kid, I made a mincemeat pie. I, too, was curious about whether it actually contained meat, so I checked the ingredients list of the mince I had bought. Which very helpfully listed “Ingredients: Mince”. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/26 "2013-11-29T18:23:45Z")
Sweet mince pie ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/27 "2013-11-29T19:44:35Z")
I think you’ve got to get the “spiced” part in there, too - the spice is a critical part of the flavour. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/28 "2013-11-29T21:25:40Z")
I wish the local groceries (New Orleans metro) sold made-in-store mincemeat pies. Many other kinds of fresh-made pies are available, but no mincemeat. I remember liking mincemeat pie a lot, but haven’t had one in nearly 30 years. Those were individual-size frozen pies from the grocery, as it was. ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/29 "2013-11-29T23:03:25Z")
As it uses similar filling, ‘Squashed fly pie’ Following the [UN’s exhortation](http://www.livescience.com/37816-eating-insects-helps-feed-hungry-world.html)that the world needs to take advantage of the protein offered from insect consumption this is a perfect way of getting people used to the idea. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/30 "2013-11-30T00:21:36Z")
I love mince pie, but I’m the only one of my family/friends who does, so I seldom get to indulge. ---
**Author:** ![gardentraveler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gardentraveler/32/3576_2.png) [@gardentraveler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gardentraveler)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959/31 "2013-11-30T01:06:41Z")
We were listing pies grandma used to make during dinner yesterday and mincemeat is the one I miss the most. I don’t remember if she made her own filling or bought it, but it was always one of my favorites. Haven’t bought any in a while. Need to get some soon… Any name that will make it popular is fine with me. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/think-of-a-new-name-for-mincemeat-pie/674959.md?page=1)