# Third Republican Debate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 1, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155 "2015-10-01T16:41:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/1 "2015-10-01T16:41:55Z")

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This one will be in Boulder, CO on Oct. 28, and is sponsored by CNBC. Candidates must have a 3% polling average to make the main debate. Note: this may be rounded–one article is saying 2.5%.

If the event were held now, this is how it would play out:

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> A CNBC spokesperson confirmed that candidates will be placed in order of their poll numbers, meaning the top three GOP candidates at the moment – none of whom have ever held public office – could be center stage. Donald Trump would be at the center, flanked by Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina.  
> If polling averages remain constant, the rest of the 8 p.m. stage would feature Sen. Marco Rubio, former Gov. Jeb Bush, Sen. Ted Cruz, Gov. John Kasich, Gov. Chris Christie, former Gov. Mike Huckabee and Paul.

For the junior-league:

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> Any candidate who has reached 1 percent in at least one of the polls recognized by CNBC is invited to participate in a 6 p.m. EDT undercard debate. According to current polls, that stage would feature Gov. Bobby Jindal, former Gov. George Pataki and former Sen. Rick Santorum. Sen. Lindsey Graham and former Gov. Jim Gilmore would need to notch at least 1 percent in any upcoming polls recognized by CNBC over the next three weeks in order to make the stage.

[http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/gop-debate-cnbc-undercard-candidates-polls-214290](http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/gop-debate-cnbc-undercard-candidates-polls-214290)

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**Author:** ![John\_D\_Adamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@John\_D\_Adamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_D_Adamo)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/2 "2015-10-02T20:55:07Z")

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Not really sure why they’re still doing the junior league debate. None of those candidates have a ice cube’s chance in hell of becoming POTUS. CNBC must have nothing decent to air then, I guess.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/3 "2015-10-02T22:07:45Z")

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That’s exactly correct , once the markets close, CNBC has ratings close to zero and most of that comes from Fast Money and Mad Money.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/4 "2015-10-03T15:13:30Z")

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> [@John\_D\_Adamo](#):
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> Not really sure why they’re still doing the junior league debate.

It worked for Fiorina.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/5 "2015-10-11T04:35:11Z")

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Using poll results to hype someone so they go up in the polls is a vicious circle, no?

Maybe instead of using poll results, they should divide the cards by some measure of experience.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/6 "2015-10-11T13:36:41Z")

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They should invite all of them to stand up, and the ten who can say “Ronald Reagan” the most times in 60 seconds get to stay for the debate, while the others head for the nearest parking ramp to tape a debate among themselves to be aired later.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/7 "2015-10-22T14:10:25Z")

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CNBC has announced the lineup:

main event  
Trump, Carson, Bush, Christie, Cruz, Fiorina, Huckabee, Kasich, Paul, and Rubio.  
junior debate  
Graham, Jindal, Santorum, and Pataki.

The main debate will be only 2 hours long (something that both Trump and Carson insisted on).

> **[The next Republican debate field is set — here's who's in and who's out](https://www.aol.com/article/2015/10/22/the-next-republican-debate-field-is-set-heres-whos-in-and-wh/21252387/)**
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> Guess who is center stage.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/8 "2015-10-22T14:47:38Z")

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You have to feel a little sorry for Jim Gilmore, who can’t even get a seat at the kiddie table.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/9 "2015-10-22T15:30:21Z")

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I have to? Well, OK, if its just a “little”.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/10 "2015-10-22T16:10:58Z")

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Pataki is still running? How come I didn’t know that? Is it because he’s not crazy?

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/11 "2015-10-23T12:02:21Z")

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I remember reading an article that said Lindsey Graham was in danger of missing the cut for the JV debate. Did they bend the rules for him, or did he just barely make the cut?

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**Author:** ![John\_D\_Adamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ed8c4c/32.png) [@John\_D\_Adamo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_D_Adamo)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/12 "2015-10-23T14:45:18Z")

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Could Trump go after Carson now that he’s trailing in Iowa by an average of 8 points?

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/13 "2015-10-23T14:48:29Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> I remember reading an article that said Lindsey Graham was in danger of missing the cut for the JV debate. Did they bend the rules for him, or did he just barely make the cut?

All he needed was to reach 1% in one single poll within the window.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/14 "2015-10-23T17:33:56Z")

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> [@John\_D\_Adamo](#):
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> Not really sure why they’re still doing the junior league debate. None of those candidates have a ice cube’s chance in hell of becoming POTUS. CNBC must have nothing decent to air then, I guess.

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It worked for Fiorina.

Who also doesn’t have a snowball’s chance.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/15 "2015-10-23T18:59:02Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> CNBC has announced the lineup:
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> main event  
> Trump, Carson, Bush, Christie, Cruz, Fiorina, Huckabee, Kasich, Paul, and Rubio.  
> junior debate  
> Graham, Jindal, Santorum, and Pataki.
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> The main debate will be only 2 hours long (something that both Trump and Carson insisted on).
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> [News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com](http://www.aol.com/article/2015/10/22/the-next-republican-debate-field-is-set-heres-whos-in-and-wh/21252387/)

Can’t believe we still have to deal with 10 candidates on the main stage. Rand Paul adds a bit of entertainment value, but I could cut him out along with Christie and Huck.

I think Bush will be interesting to watch because he feels like he needs to play offense now.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/16 "2015-10-23T19:42:59Z")

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DSeid predicts … significantly lower ratings.

The show is getting boring; the schtick is getting old.

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**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/17 "2015-10-23T19:51:47Z")

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It’s in the Stupid Ideas thread but I hope Carson [drops this](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/ben-carson-comforts-conservatives-i-will-only-police-liberal-speech-on-college-campuses/) in the debate.

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> The Republican presidential candidate, who claims “the power of God” is behind his campaign but believes Muslims are too religious to serve as president, said he would task the Department of Education with monitoring and punishing examples of “extreme political bias” at colleges and universities.
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> Carson explained his sketched-out policy proposal Thursday during an interview with talk radio host Dana Loesch, **where he assured conservatives they would not be targeted by his campus speech monitoring** , reported Right Wing Watch.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/18 "2015-10-28T09:49:51Z")

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John Kasich [is getting fed up](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/john-kasich-had-it-gopers):

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> “Do you know how crazy this election is? Let me tell you something, I’ve about had it with these people,” Kasich said, according to the report. “I want you to know I’m fed up. I’m sick and tired of listening to this nonsense and I’m going to have to call it like it is in this race."
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> \<snip\>
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> “What’s happened to our party? What’s happened to the conservative movement?” Kasich said to the crowd, according to the publication. “I’m done being polite and listening to this nonsense.”

We’ll find out tonight whether he actually means that. It could be a very interesting evening if he does, but I don’t see him having the guts to use the debate as an opportunity to call out his party on the direction it’s going.

I’d love to be proven wrong, though.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/19 "2015-10-28T09:55:48Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> DSeid predicts … significantly lower ratings.
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> The show is getting boring; the schtick is getting old.

And the Dem debate, IMHO, revealed the hollowness of the GOP debates, the underlying lack of substance there. It’s no more than WWE for political junkies.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/third-republican-debate/733155/20 "2015-10-28T11:32:31Z")

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I think this debate will be very interesting.

Marco Rubio is being hammered right now for his recent voting record and “I hate the Senate” remarks, so I suspect he could have a rough night.

Trump is unpredictable, so who the hell knows what he might do in his desperation to stay on top.

I can’t wait.

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