# THIRTY DOLLARS for a fucking cheesecake? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 15, 2005, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690 "2005-12-15T04:04:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/21 "2005-12-15T07:03:56Z")
> [@Exploding Kitchen](#): > > My zebra chocolate cheesecake is worth every dollar in the ingredients I put in it. I bake it myself, and I don’t think I come out under $30 when I make it, unless I catch good sales. > > Then again, I’ve had an orgasm from eating it. Literally. Which is, naturally, _the_ best part of eating real cheesecake. 🆒 A friend of mine and I used to go to a restuarant where they sold cheesecake at about $4 a sliver - it was called “Chocolate Orgasm”. They weren’t kidding. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_You_Big_Red_Fire_Engine)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/22 "2005-12-15T07:04:16Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > They are not even that much work since you don’t have to cook them, just refrigerate them. Since the OP is about New York Cheesecake, and you’re spouting off about how much _you know_ about making cheesecakes, I would like to point out that traditionally New York cheesecake is baked. ---
**Author:** ![SparrowHawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@SparrowHawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SparrowHawk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/23 "2005-12-15T07:06:54Z")
> [@Anastasaeon](#): > > Here in the US, though, I think I could pull it off for around $13-15, _maybe_, for a basic one. I haven’t tried it, this is just checking out the prices on the cheese, eggs, etc. _Maybe_. Partly depends on what size cheesecake you’re making; you note yours were large. I’ve got two recipes, one for an 8-inch cake (3 8-oz. packages of cream cheese, 1 cup of sour cream, 3 eggs) and one for a 10-incher (5 cream cheese, 2 cups of sour cream and 6 eggs). I usually make the smaller one, since having a lot of leftover cheesecake around is a baaaaad idea. Not that it’s around long, mind you. I’ll be making one this weekend, as my husband is nuts about them and Monday is his birthday. It’s the least I can do, which is what I generally aim for. 😉 I’ll have to see how much I shell out for it. ---
**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/24 "2005-12-15T07:14:05Z")
> [@SparrowHawk](#): > > Partly depends on what size cheesecake you’re making; you note yours were large. I’ve got two recipes, one for an 8-inch cake (3 8-oz. packages of cream cheese, 1 cup of sour cream, 3 eggs) and one for a 10-incher (5 cream cheese, 2 cups of sour cream and 6 eggs). I usually make the smaller one, since having a lot of leftover cheesecake around is a baaaaad idea. Not that it’s around long, mind you. I’ll be making one this weekend, as my husband is nuts about them and Monday is his birthday. It’s the least I can do, which is what I generally aim for. 😉 I’ll have to see how much I shell out for it. You’re right, I got thinking after I posted that the reason I remember thinking it would be that much cheaper is because right now, I only own one springform pan, and it’s an 8-incher. So yes, if I made them as large as I used to, I would have used my old 10-12" pans, depending on how large a crowd I was baking them for. The 10" usually took about five packages of cream cheese, and it just went up from there. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/25 "2005-12-15T07:14:32Z")
> [@Exploding Kitchen](#): > > My zebra chocolate cheesecake is worth every dollar in the ingredients I put in it. I bake it myself, and I don’t think I come out under $30 when I make it, unless I catch good sales. > > Then again, I’ve had an orgasm from eating it. Literally. I’ll have what she’s having… Stranger ---
**Author:** ![SparrowHawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@SparrowHawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SparrowHawk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/26 "2005-12-15T07:21:59Z")
Now I come to think of it, since I’m going to be making one anyway… my esteemed **Exploding Kitchen,** is the recipe for your orgasmic creation a proprietary secret, or would you mind sharing? I feel a sudden urge to expand my culinary knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/27 "2005-12-15T07:25:07Z")
Oh shit. :smack: This thread is going to be emasculated to _Cafe Society_. My first Pit thread in my 6 1/2 years on the board and it gets downgraded. Story of my life. ---
**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/28 "2005-12-15T07:26:09Z")
> [@Rico](#): > > Oh shit. :smack: > > This thread is going to be emasculated to _Cafe Society_. > > My first Pit thread in my 6 1/2 years on the board and it gets downgraded. > > Story of my life. Want a Chocolate Orgasm? $30. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/29 "2005-12-15T07:26:09Z")
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a mod have to move his own thread before. What is the world coming to. ---
**Author:** ![SparrowHawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac8455/32.png) [@SparrowHawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SparrowHawk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/30 "2005-12-15T07:47:01Z")
This is the Pit? Oops. Sorry, Mr. **Rico** , sir. If you’d like to come back in and toss some more swear words and vicious invective around, do feel free. We’ll just wait over here. It is your thread, after all. Psst… **Kitchen** … about that recipe…? ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/31 "2005-12-15T08:46:53Z")
I, too, want to see the $3.00 cheesecake, without baking. I’ve made some very successful cheesecakes, but I baked 'em all. I’d also like to know the recipe for the orgasm inducing cheesecake. Please? ---
**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/32 "2005-12-15T09:19:38Z")
> [@Rico](#): > > Oh shit. :smack: > > This thread is going to be emasculated to _Cafe Society_. > > My first Pit thread in my 6 1/2 years on the board and it gets downgraded. > > Story of my life. Surely a move from the Pit to Café Society is an upgrade to the finer things in life? ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/33 "2005-12-15T09:31:50Z")
> [@Anastasaeon](#): > > You’re right, I got thinking after I posted that the reason I remember thinking it would be that much cheaper is because right now, I only own one springform pan, and it’s an 8-incher. > > So yes, if I made them as large as I used to, I would have used my old 10-12" pans, depending on how large a crowd I was baking them for. The 10" usually took about five packages of cream cheese, and it just went up from there. Dang, I bet they were heavy. I made mine with (I think; it’s been a while, and we can’t figure out where my recipe went) three packages of cream cheese and taking the baked product out of the oven was always fun. I use an 8" springform pan. ---
**Author:** ![Anastasaeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Anastasaeon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anastasaeon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/34 "2005-12-15T09:45:39Z")
> [@Harimad-sol](#): > > Dang, I bet they were heavy. I made mine with (I think; it’s been a while, and we can’t figure out where my recipe went) three packages of cream cheese and taking the baked product out of the oven was always fun. I use an 8" springform pan. Oh hell yeah, they were heavy. After I learned to make “New York Style” dense cheesecakes, I never went back. They had this texture to them that was just sooo… can something be heavy and creamy at the same time? I suppose I shouldn’t say I “never went back”, since I did, upon request. But I got the most requests for the dense stuff. This stuff was _not_ for someone watching their waistline. This stuff was gooooooooooood! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jotun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/46a35a/32.png) [@Jotun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jotun)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/35 "2005-12-15T09:55:18Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Oh, come on. In Canadian dollars that’s what? Twelve bucks and change? 😃 Actually it’s $25.93 😃 ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/36 "2005-12-15T09:58:26Z")
> [@Rico](#): > > …This thread is going to be emasculated… In what will probably be a futile gesture, I will attempt to save this poor threads genitalia! Fuck cheesecake, what kinda shitty cake is made out of cheese! If fucking Bush hadn’t stolen the election and invaded Iraq, cheesecake would be free! It’s all fuckin’ Clinton’s fucking fault, if he hadn’t fucked a cheesecake in the fucking oval office and lied about it. Cheesecake is proof that God exists. Cheesecake is proof that God does not exist. Fred Phelps says God hates cheesecake, can you fucking believe it? Fuck people who say they have a great fucking recipe for some delicious fucking foodstuff shit and don’t immediately post it. Fuck people who ask for fuckin’ recipes. Fuck people who complain when their fucking thread gets moved. Fuck people who complain about the fucking price of cheesecake. Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Well I tried **Rico** , and I’m sorry I have to do this but, now about this cheesecake, recipes would be cool, but I think some baking hints might be even better! Whisk or mixer. Mixer, hand-held or stand? Any tricks in the prep? Secret ingredients? How do you keep it from cracking? I love to bake, but cheesecake has always intimidated me. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/37 "2005-12-15T09:58:29Z")
[Cheesecake Truck](http://www.lyricsdownload.com/king-missile-cheesecake-truck-lyrics.html) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/38 "2005-12-15T15:32:32Z")
> [@Jotun](#): > > Actually it’s $25.93 😃 Todey, maybe. Tomorrow, probably $27.47. It won’t be too long before the exchange rate goes the other way. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/39 "2005-12-15T16:01:18Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > I can make a first-class cheesecake for less than three dollars using stuff at the grocery store. Fuck you, man, you **cannot** make a first-class cheesecake for less than three dollars using stuff at the grocery store; you wouldn’t know a first-class cheesecake if someone stuffed it down your gullet piece by creamy, delicious piece. I bake cheesecakes that **approach** first class (if I made them more than once every year or so, they might become first-class eventually), using Insanity Rose Beranbaum’s “Cordon Rose” recipe from _The Cake Bible_. I can verify that the ingredients cost between $15-$20, or more if I make it a chocolate cheesecake (using superb chocolate, of course) or use fresh fruit. And **Rico**? You can piss off: thirty bucks for a good cheesecake is a bargain. Assuming that the kitchen gets a discount on ingredients, that’s about what it should cost: to make ends meet, bakeries generally charge triple the cost of ingredients for each confection. At least, that was the rule of thumb we used in the bakeries I worked at. This pays for labor (and bakers aren’t rolling in the dough – ha, ha!), power, floor space, and so forth. But if you’re getting imported New York Cheesecakes, you’re not getting something good anyway: chances are you’re getting frozen mass-produced overpriced shit, and the only reason it’s thirty bucks is because its cornstarch-and-gelatin-filled corpus is elephantine. A real $30 cheesecake should be maybe 9" across, and pure heaven in every bite, not a trace of filler. There, how’s that? Can it stay in the pit? Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2005, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690/40 "2005-12-15T16:04:07Z")
> [@davenportavenger](#): > > Funny, I don’t think of pie as being a southwest food. Unless it is like, filled with beans or something. And cooked on a mesquite grill. > > I can make a first-class cheesecake for less than three dollars using stuff at the grocery store. I think Marie Callendar’s even makes a box mix, although IMO cheesecake is one of those things that is really better from scratch, and I’m a box cook. They are not even that much work since you don’t have to cook them, just refrigerate them. > > But yes, down with overpriced dessert items! For that price my cheesecake better have a golden pit. With all due respect, there is no such thing as a “first class” cheesecake that isn’t baked. And I refuse to believe that you’re making a “first class” cheesecake for under three dollars. At my local Safeway, the store-brand cream cheese is $0.99 for eight ounces. Two packages, minimum, for an 8-inch cheesecake. Grade A/Aa Medium Eggs - 12 Count - are $1.29. Let’s say four eggs – forty-three cents. Graham cracker crumbs for the crust – buy a package of Safeway Honey Grahams and crumble them yourself - 28.8 Oz for $3.49 and use half: $1.75. That’s the MINIMUM needed for something that could approach a “First class” cheesecake. And I use “approach” advisedly. A “first class” cheesecake uses high end cream cheese, heavy cream, more eggs, melted butter in the crust, etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thirty-dollars-for-a-fucking-cheesecake/335690.md?page=3)