# This actor is GUILTY AS SIN

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 29, 2005, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137 "2005-11-29T00:09:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/21 "2005-11-29T03:20:23Z")

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> [@Linty Fresh](#):
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> Kevin Spacey.

Until 1999, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/22 "2005-11-29T03:22:45Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Christopher Lee
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> James Cromwell
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> A friend of mine can’t watch any movies with Damon/Affleck because “they look a fratboy date rape waiting to happen”.

Heh, that’s totally true about Affleck and Damon, especially when they work with Kevin Smith. And James Cromwell supposedly played a kindly farmer in Babe, but I’ll never get past his performance as Dudley Smith in L.A. Confidential. Chilling.

Whenever I see Jake Busey, I always expect a psycho, maybe a deranged redneck/hillbilly psycho, perhaps a Bible verse-spouting psycho.

“Hey, It’s That Guy!” character actor Billy Drago always plays knife-wielding toadies, flunkies, and psychos, as in The Untouchables and Adventures of Brisco County, Jr…

Danny Trejo will always be “evil badass Mexican,” whether he’s a thug, a hitman, a prisoner, or a vampire (or perhaps all of the above).

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/23 "2005-11-29T03:58:20Z")

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> [@Cat Fight](#):
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> Have to agree with Sarsgaard. How can someone who seems so laid back be so evil time and time again?

Admittedly, his character in **Garden State** wasn’t the world’s most upstanding citizen, but he turned out to be a good guy in that one.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/24 "2005-11-29T03:59:11Z")

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Any celebrity guest star in any _Law and Order_ show will probably turn out to be the perp.

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**Author:** ![lee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lee/32/7455_2.png) [@lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lee)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/25 "2005-11-29T04:07:46Z")

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In _Blast from the Past_ Christopher Walken was not a bad guy, nor did I get the feeling that he would turn out evil.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/26 "2005-11-29T04:12:52Z")

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Gary Oldman - he’s playing the Devil, Dracula, Lee Harvey Oswald, a crazed cop, Pontius Pilate, an evil Senator, Dr Smith, a serial killer, a religious fanatic, and Sid Vicous. Makes me wonder if Beethoven was secretly killing co-eds.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/27 "2005-11-29T04:31:28Z")

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> [@Mapache](#):
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> How about the Swedish actor Peter Stormare, of whose acting I am kind of a fan.  
> Never seems to get to play anything but creeps: (I don’t know what his Swedish roles were like before he got to Hollywood.) A mostly wordless psycopath in Fargo (at the end he grinds up his ex-partner in a wood chipper); producer of snuff pornography in 8mm; sadistic zapper of, and eventually eaten by) little dinosaurs in The Lost World; imbecile “nihilist” in The Big Lebowski; drunken wife-beater in Chocolat…does he ever get a good guy part?

Well, the crazy Russian on the space station wasn’t a bad guy, was he? But not a good guy, either. Oh, heck. I don’t remember. (Aah. _Armageddon_. Grade D movie with a Grade A cast.)

[Tracey Walter](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0910145/) isn’t an automatic bad guy. But as soon as you see him, you know that his character is going to pass along a crucial piece of information.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/28 "2005-11-29T04:45:59Z")

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Christian Bale, because of _American Psycho_ and _The Machinist_, and Edward Norton, because of… well… pretty much everything.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/29 "2005-11-29T04:47:24Z")

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> [@bubastis](#):
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> Ok, maybe Kiefer has mellowed a bit…[/SIZE]

“I’m gonna need a handsaw.”  
–Jack Bauer, season 2 of 24

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**Author:** ![Catalyst](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@Catalyst](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catalyst)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/30 "2005-11-29T05:14:19Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> Edward Norton, because of… well… pretty much everything.

I dunno, Smoochy was a pretty upstanding rhino.

I’m not sure about Sarsgaard, either. I can only recall seeing him in _Jarhead_, where he’s among the more responsible and level-headed characters for most of the movie.

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/31 "2005-11-29T05:21:49Z")

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“If that’s John Saxon, I’m screwed.”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/32 "2005-11-29T05:26:38Z")

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Just about the worst case of someone turning out to be the bad guy was Kim Cattrall’s role in _Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country_. Somebody aboard the _Enterprise_ is a traitor, but the only _Enterprise_ crew members who’ve had speaking parts are Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Chekov, Scott, Uhura and… Lieutenant Valeris.

Well, let’s see, by process of elimination the guilty party is… wait, let me guess… Ensign Ricky!

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/33 "2005-11-29T05:42:36Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> “I’m gonna need a handsaw.”  
> –Jack Bauer, season 2 of 24

HACKsaw. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/34 "2005-11-29T07:38:19Z")

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You know when Al Pacino played the good guy in “Heat” I just could NOT for the life of me, get my brain to compute.

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**Author:** ![bubastis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@bubastis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bubastis)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/35 "2005-11-29T08:33:21Z")

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> [@interface2x](#):
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> Admittedly, his character in **Garden State** wasn’t the world’s most upstanding citizen, but he turned out to be a good guy in that one.

Serious? I kept expecting the end to go like this:

JD: Hey, Peter, why’d you bring us down into this spooky deserted quarry?

Peter Saarsgard: This isnt a quarry…this is YOUR GRAVE!!

(Pushes JD and Natalie into the quarry, cackling like fuck.

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**Author:** ![GraceTX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c4cdca/32.png) [@GraceTX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GraceTX)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/36 "2005-11-29T10:02:02Z")

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> [@Mapache](#):
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> How about the Swedish actor Peter Stormare, of whose acting I am kind of a fan.  
> Never seems to get to play anything but creeps: (I don’t know what his Swedish roles were like before he got to Hollywood.) A mostly wordless psycopath in Fargo (at the end he grinds up his ex-partner in a wood chipper); producer of snuff pornography in 8mm; sadistic zapper of, and eventually eaten by) little dinosaurs in The Lost World; imbecile “nihilist” in The Big Lebowski; drunken wife-beater in Chocolat…does he ever get a good guy part?

Plus a somewhat camp and crazy, but definitely evil, Satan in _Constantine_.

> [@bubastis](#):
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> …Kevin Bacon…

So are you saying it was him that unleashed the evil worm beasties on that unsuspecting hamlet in _Tremors_? And perhaps it was really him that killed Sean Penn’s daughter in _Mystic River_? Gosh, who knew? 😛

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/37 "2005-11-29T10:34:26Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Sean Bean. The poor son of a bitch; he’s typecast as the bad guy for life. His face says “I did it.” If he could have any other career, he’d be a butler.
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> If Sean Bean starred in a movie as Jesus Christ, somehow things would go so wrong that, by the end of the movie, Jesus would murder Moses.

Oh, please. Stop slandering Boromir.

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**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/38 "2005-11-29T14:24:31Z")

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No, Sean Bean is Richard Sharpe! I always have a difficult time believing he’s the bad guy.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/39 "2005-11-29T14:25:22Z")

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Richard Kiel, if not the evil Eegah, then a wicked henchman.

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-actor-is-guilty-as-sin/333137/40 "2005-11-29T14:27:04Z")

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Vincent Price, for sure. Although, it’s weird to see LAURA which is early in his career, before he got type-cast… and he’s not the villain, although I kept expecting him to be!

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