# This Bee Movie trainwreck is delicious **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965 "2007-10-25T15:07:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/41 "2007-10-25T18:39:13Z")
Whenever I see this kind of promotion, I think the movie crashed and burned during test screenings. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/42 "2007-10-25T18:47:12Z")
[QUOTE=Baldwin] I don’t know if the movie will be any good, but nothing turns me off like relentless promotion. [/QUOTE] But it worked for **I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry**. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/43 "2007-10-25T18:52:07Z")
If you’ve read _DisneyWar_ by James B. Stewart, you’ll know what an “event” movie is, and that’s what Jeff Katzenberg and Dreamworks are trying to make this. It’s basically a planned blockbuster. The idea went against Michael Eisner’s approach of low-budget=low-risk with high volume, but it worked and Katzenberg pushed it before and after leaving Disney. That they want _Bee Movie_ to be an event movie has a lot to do with that $150 million budget. The idea of a bee attempting to sue humans for selling stolen honey without compensating the bees isn’t a bad idea, but I didn’t know that was the plot until this thread. All the promotion has been “LOOK! Jerry Seinfeld!” with a little bit of talking-bee-fish-out-of-water. Trying to sift through the artificial industry buzz is impossible. IMHO, Dreamworks relies far too much on name recognition of their voice actors. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/44 "2007-10-25T19:05:11Z")
[QUOTE=garygnu] IMHO, Dreamworks relies far too much on name recognition of their voice actors. [/QUOTE] Sometimes at the expense of good casting. It’s great that you could get…I dunno, Julia Louis-Dreyfus…to be in your animated movie, but if she’s bad for the part, _who cares?_ :mad: ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/45 "2007-10-25T20:25:06Z")
Okay, lemme see if I have this straight. It’s Jerry Seinfeld in a comedy project, and the story is pretty much about **nothing?** Nah, that’ll never fly. Oy vey on a cracker! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/46 "2007-10-25T20:38:53Z")
[QUOTE=mobo85] Don’t _all_ Disney animated movies made from the Katzenburg Era and after have an inexplicable adult following? [/QUOTE] Not all. Everyone agrees that _Home on the Range_ sucked. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/47 "2007-10-25T20:48:25Z")
[QUOTE=Pochacco] Not all. Everyone agrees that _Home on the Range_ sucked. [/QUOTE] Katzenberg left Disney in 1994. He was not responisble for that drivel, nor for _Groove_ or _Stitch_. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/48 "2007-10-25T22:17:54Z")
I did say Katzenberg Era and _after_. I had forgotten about _Home on the Range_…as did most people. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/49 "2007-10-25T22:26:31Z")
[QUOTE=pizzabrat] Wow…that’s what I get for assuming everyone thinks like me. [/QUOTE] Damn straight. It’s not like this is a hive-mind or anything. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/50 "2007-10-25T22:47:10Z")
[QUOTE=garygnu] To me the worst movies tend to be the ones people ask for. [/QUOTE] _Alien vs. Predator_, anybody? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/51 "2007-10-25T23:18:00Z")
[QUOTE=KneadToKnow] _Alien vs. Predator_, anybody? [/QUOTE] No thanks. The in-planning “World of Warcraft” picture will be disgracefully bad. I don’t even know who’s involved with it and I’d put fifty bucks on it sucking. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/52 "2007-10-26T03:09:36Z")
> [@](#): > > All of those ideas sound interesting They sound unusual. But so do plots like three cows go on a quest to save their farm; or a shark and a fish join forces to win the approval they seek; or a cat has to overome prejudice to become a musical comedy star in Hollywood. Compare them to the plots I mentioned before and try to guess which movies were good and which were bad. The point is that nobody goes to an animated feature because of the plot. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/53 "2007-10-26T03:16:12Z")
[QUOTE=KneadToKnow] _Alien vs. Predator_, anybody? [/QUOTE] Or the Star Wars prequels? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/54 "2007-10-26T03:30:38Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] They sound unusual. But so do plots like three cows go on a quest to save their farm; or a shark and a fish join forces to win the approval they seek; or a cat has to overome prejudice to become a musical comedy star in Hollywood. Compare them to the plots I mentioned before and try to guess which movies were good and which were bad. The point is that nobody goes to an animated feature because of the plot. [/QUOTE] Weren’t those ALL bad? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/55 "2007-10-26T03:41:50Z")
I personally like _Finding Nemo_, _Toy Story_, and _Lilo & Stitch_ (which were the three I described in my previous post) and I was not impressed by _Home on the Range_ or _Shark’s Tale_ and I didn’t see _Cats Don’t Dance_ (which were the three from my subsequent post). I tried to pick movies that had a pretty consistent consensus on them as well as my own personal opinion. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/56 "2007-11-02T20:36:33Z")
Well, it’s out tonight and the [reviews](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bee_movie/) are in. _Bee Movie_ scores a mediocre 54% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not good at all, but not a trainwreck by any means. Considering DreamWorks’ previous animated features had similar reviews and made a healthy profit, I think the future for the Bee is bright. (_Shrek III_ got a whopping 42% and grossed over $320 million). ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965/57 "2007-11-02T21:16:20Z")
[QUOTE=mobo85] I did say Katzenberg Era and _after_. I had forgotten about _Home on the Range_…as did most people. [/QUOTE] ☹ It was my daughters first movie (she was 2) and will always hold a special place in my heart. Of course, I don’t have the slightest remembrance of what the film was about, but it holds a special place… yadda, yadda, yadda. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bee-movie-trainwreck-is-delicious/423965.md?page=2)