# This bullshit is getting fucking old!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 18, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641 "2022-05-18T22:23:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![cjackson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@cjackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjackson)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/1 "2022-05-18T22:23:21Z")

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> **[r/kratom - Please Contact Congress to stop FDA & Big Pharma's attempt to...](https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/comments/urzvtw/please_contact_congress_to_stop_fda_big_pharmas/)**
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> 410 votes and 130 comments so far on Reddit

Alright you motherfuckers, this shit is getting old. We need to get rid of those faggot ass lobbyists that are working for big pharma to kill our buzz! Well, let’s get to raising hell at those congress critters that would vote for this. It helps keep me from drinking and it calms me; makes me less psychotic. In short: it is my happy place.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/2 "2022-05-18T22:26:34Z")

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> [@cjackson](#):
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> … It helps keep me from drinking and it calms me; makes me less psychotic. In short: it is my happy place.

I’m not sure it’s working.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/3 "2022-05-18T22:38:56Z")

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By “lobbyists” do you mean American Kratom Association?

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/4 "2022-05-18T22:42:14Z")

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“faggot ass”? Really?

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/5 "2022-05-18T22:43:06Z")

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I think it’s satire.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/6 "2022-05-18T22:46:02Z")

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I don’t know what kratom is, but thanks to the OP, I’m against it.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/7 "2022-05-18T23:00:49Z")

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It seems to me that they’re jumping the gun. They aren’t upset about kratom being banned. They’re upset at the possibility that the FDA may be able to better regulate supplements. They’re assuming that this means the FDA will ban kratom.

I personally think that supplements should be better regulated. That industry is sloppy, resulting in issues where the amount of the substance on the bottle doesn’t match the amount in the substance. This needs to be standardized.

I’m also not sure that this would actually change the FDA’s ability to go after kratom. It wouldn’t be the first substance that started out as an herb and later got classified as a drug.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/8 "2022-05-18T23:03:43Z")

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I have no idea what (other than the cognitive effects of kratom) would justify a new rant when there’s a perfectly good old rant thread less that a month old right here.

> [@Kratom and Delta 8 bans](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kratom-and-delta-8-bans/963637):
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> I live in Virginia and commute to Tennessee frequently. I’ve managed to stop drinking thanks to the substances in the title. Now it seems big pharma, etc. is weaseling into VA and TN to get the republicnt governments to cut out something that is beneficial to me and many others. Screw their profits. The kratom and delta 8 business must be cutting into their precious profits. I know some worthless Barney Fife types in law enforcement are going to end dying over a fuking plant and corporate greed …

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/9 "2022-05-18T23:05:30Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> I think it’s satire.

It is, but I think it’s highly questionable satire, since (so far as I’m aware) the idiots who are being mocked are not specifically characterized by use of this type of bigoted ephithet.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/10 "2022-05-18T23:21:24Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> “faggot ass”? Really?

> [@DCnDC](#):
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> I think it’s satire.

> [@Riemann](#):
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> (so far as I’m aware) the idiots who are being mocked are not specifically characterized by use of this type of bigoted ephithet.

While the above by @Riemann is probably true, it doesn’t matter. Would you (dare to) put the N-word (spelled out) there in place of “faggot?”

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/11 "2022-05-18T23:30:22Z")

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Speed kills, Del.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/12 "2022-05-18T23:31:26Z")

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/13 "2022-05-18T23:32:24Z")

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Closed until @Miller gets a chance to review the 7 or so flags this has already generated. I suspect it will stay closed. I am often wrong.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-bullshit-is-getting-fucking-old/964641/14 "2022-05-19T05:03:30Z")

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Definitely staying closed. The OP is a call to action, which isn’t allowed. And I’m giving a formal warning to the poster for use of slurs.
