# This country is fucked: Survey says Fox now most trusted name in news. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580 "2010-01-26T22:32:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/301 "2010-02-04T21:41:09Z")
Its really pretty simple, when you ponder upon it: Fox makes their bias obvious, as a gesture to the intelligence of their audience. This alerts their audience to be attentive to that bias, and to adjust accordingly. The bias of the other news outlets is subtle and insidious, and can only be detected by certain sharp and incisive minds, minds attuned to nuance and subtext. If the liberal media had the courage, they would admit their bias like Fox does. Fox respects its audience, and alerts them that they are getting slanted views, and need to pursue the question further, dig for the real facts at other outlets. Like Drudge Report. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/302 "2010-02-04T21:48:31Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > **GIGO** , thanks for proving my point about the threadjack. And thank you for showing all how you run away from evidence. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/303 "2010-02-04T21:56:08Z")
Aw. c’mon, **GIGO** , that was a _zinger_! He _really_ got you with that one! You argue like Disraeli or Demosthenes, he argues like Pee-Wee Herman, you haven’t much of a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/304 "2010-02-05T00:53:30Z")
Good cites **Shodan**. Too bad the lefties on this board aren’t man enough to admit when they’ve been beaten. Truth hurts, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/305 "2010-02-05T01:16:03Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Good cites **Shodan**. Too bad the lefties on this board aren’t man enough to admit when they’ve been beaten. > > Truth hurts, I suppose. What? Can you point at me defending CBS for that? The trouble here is you are still deluded into thinking that that is a bigger problem than the current one of FOX lying to the American public. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/306 "2010-02-05T01:44:17Z")
But getting back to the :sigh: There is indeed an ongoing effort by Fox to continue with the lies and innuendo regarding Global Warming. [http://mediamatters.org/research/201001250018](http://mediamatters.org/research/201001250018) > [@](#): > > Cavuto’s flawed “global warming alert”: “It is freezing across the entire globe.” On the January 9 edition of his Fox News show, Neil Cavuto introduced a segment by saying, “This is our Fox News global warming alert for you,” and falsely claimed that “\*t is freezing across the entire globe”; guest Ben Stein later suggested that “maybe all this talk about global warming needs to be rethought” because of recent cold weather. > [@](#): > > Hannity touts ice sculptors who cited cold temperatures to claim that global warming “hasn’t exactly reached Alaska.” Fox News’ Sean Hannity stated on the January 7 edition of his Fox News program, “You are looking at a two-ton ice sculpture of the former VP and, yes, he’s blowing smoke as he always does. Now, the work of art sits outside a Thrifty liquor store in Fairbanks, Alaska. Now, the artists say that they created the sculpture to show Mr. Gore that global warming hasn’t exactly reached Alaska quite yet. In fact, they say that when it was sculpted, the temperatures were 32 below. I like that.” > > Hannity repeatedly falsely claimed 2009 was the “coldest year on record.” As Media Matters for America has noted, on several occasions, Hannity has also falsely claimed that 2009 was the “coldest year on record.” Meanwhile, back in the real world: > [@](#): > > NOAA: “The 2000-2009 decade is the warmest on record.” The National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) stated in its “Global Analysis” of 2009 that “[t]he 2000-2009 decade is the warmest on record, with an average global surface temperature of 0.54°C (0.96°F) above the 20th century average. This shattered the 1990s value of 0.36°C (0.65°F).” NCDC further noted that based on global combined land and ocean surface temperature data, 2009 tied with 2006 “as the fifth warmest [year] since records began in 1880.” > > Met Office: 2000-2009 “has been, by far, the warmest decade on the instrumental record.” The U.K. Met Office stated on December 7 that “[t]he first decade of this century has been, by far, the warmest decade on the instrumental record” and that “despite 1998 being the warmest individual year – the last ten years have clearly been the warmest period in the 160-year record of global surface temperature, maintained jointly by the Met Office Hadley Centre and the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia.” > > WMO: “2000-2009, The Warmest Decade.” In a December 8, 2009, press release, the World Meteorological Organisation reported that “[t]he decade of the 2000s (2000-2009) was warmer than the decade spanning the 1990s (1990-1999), which in turn was warmer than the 1980s (1980-1989).” Fox fact checkers are either incompetent or the outfit just does not care. Either way, I would not trust them. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/307 "2010-02-05T03:48:01Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > What, National Review Online and something called Wizbang? Boy, talk about _cites_! I’m certainly convinced! "Is he starting to memorize jokes, from Cap’n Billy’s Whizbang? Does he rebuckle his knickerbockers \*below \*the knee? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/308 "2010-02-05T04:04:52Z")
“_Cap’n Billy’s Whizbang_?” Isn’t that a gay porn flick? ---
**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/309 "2010-02-05T04:07:19Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > In other news, 49% of Americans are total morons. Or, 51% of Americans are total morons. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/310 "2010-02-05T04:08:38Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Good cites **Shodan**. Too bad the lefties on this board aren’t man enough to admit when they’ve been beaten. > > Truth hurts, I suppose. You’re deflecting again. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/311 "2010-02-05T04:09:10Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Fox fact checkers… Does not compute. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/312 "2010-02-05T04:11:54Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Does not compute. They’re there to make sure no facts make it to air. It’s a grueling job, because no matter how stupid their TV personalities are, sometimes one regurgitates an actual according-to-Hoyle fact they heard somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/313 "2010-02-05T04:14:41Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > “_Cap’n Billy’s Whizbang_?” Isn’t that a gay porn flick? [A boys’ mag](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Billy%27s_Whiz_Bang) from the turn of the century. Filled with gay porn. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/314 "2010-02-05T04:43:48Z")
I see flyers for Whiz Bang days all the time\*, and never knew what it was. It is about 1000 times cooler a back story than I ever would have guessed. - I live about 1 mile from Robbinsdale. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/315 "2010-02-05T05:46:43Z")
> [@jimpatro](#): > > (tacoloco: “In other news, 49% of Americans are total morons.”) > Or, 51% of Americans are total morons. 😉 As mentioned in another thread, 31% of Americans vote more or less randomly. My statistics are rusty, but I think we’d be doing better than we are if fewer than 65% were morons. :smack: (Oh. You said “total morons.” Well, then maybe the figure _is_ as low as 51% 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Vorpal\_Blade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/9de0a6/32.png) [@Vorpal\_Blade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vorpal_Blade)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/316 "2010-02-05T18:39:44Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > As mentioned in another thread, 31% of Americans vote more or less randomly. My statistics are rusty, but I think we’d be doing better than we are if fewer than 65% were morons. :smack: > > (Oh. You said “total morons.” Well, then maybe the figure _is_ as low as 51% 😃 ) 87.065% of all statistics are made up on the spot. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/317 "2010-02-05T23:26:36Z")
64 percent of all the world’s statistics are made up right there on the spot 82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they’re accurate statistics or not I don’t know what you believe but I do know there’s no doubt I need another double shot of something 90 proof I got too much to think about ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/318 "2010-02-05T23:29:59Z")
Burma-Shave ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2010, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/319 "2010-02-10T08:46:00Z")
Elucidator, you must be the dumbest sheep fucking son of a bitch to walk this screwed up little world. Fox respects nothing but the advertising dollars they get and their ratings share. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2010, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/320 "2010-02-10T10:27:55Z")
> [@anya\_marie](#): > > Elucidator, you must be the dumbest sheep fucking son of a bitch to walk this screwed up little world. Fox respects nothing but the advertising dollars they get and their ratings share. I think Rupert’s ambitions have been a little wider than that - it’s also been about expanding the sphere of influence for all his other media outlets. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580.md?page=17)