# This country is fucked: Survey says Fox now most trusted name in news.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580 "2010-01-26T22:32:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/41 "2010-01-27T03:07:19Z")

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**GIGO** , you posted links from 3 self-described liberal organizations.

Got anything objective?

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/42 "2010-01-27T03:09:45Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Here’s the story. 49 percent say they trust Fox, more than trust any other network.  
> [Public Policy Polling: Fox leads for trust](http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/01/fox-leads-for-trust.html)
> 
> sigh

Why sigh? Have you just become so jaded by the lies and misrepresentation of the mainstream media that it grates on your nerves to have a network stand up and tell it like it is?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/43 "2010-01-27T03:11:56Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Does it make you happy, to know that so much of the country is as stupid as you are?

Actually it makes me happy to see that so much of the country can see their hand in front of their face and know that it is a hand. You have yet one more thing to aspire to.

Also, it makes me happy that this news gets under your skin. It is both a testament to liberal bias and the fairness of Fox. And that’s not just ME saying so, it’s the country, as determined by a poll from your own side! The truth you don’t like is given by your own side! I guess they’re morons, too. Right, imbecile?

The truth: swallow it, punk.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/44 "2010-01-27T03:13:18Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> please to explain why?
> 
> Is there not something of a track record of lefty leaning (I pointed out only two) at the other places?

Read the book [BIAS](http://www.amazon.com/Bias-Insider-Exposes-Media-Distort/dp/B000ECXDVC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264561872&sr=8-1) by Bernard Goldberg. It will open your eyes.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/45 "2010-01-27T03:14:46Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Hello Mr. **Fish Pot** (can i call you **Stink**?)
> 
> Right before you, **Cort** posted what seemed to me to be an analysis with cites and everything that made a reasonable stab at showing FOX news viewers are significantly more clueless than other viewers, and that the FOX network itself lies about the bias in coverage.
> 
> On the other hand, you have posted a bunch of opinions, couched in an insulting tone.
> 
> Thank you for illustrating in such an entertaining fashion the differences between the two opposing views.

I wasn’t responding directly to Cort. It was the sum of the opinions that pop into all of these threads. If I gave that impression, my mistake.

This board leans so far to the left it’s amazing it doesn’t list to port.

There are very few people that can give an opinion on FOX without the standard right-wing flame fest. And yet it is this same group of people who never see the problems with what we think of as “main stream media”.

Every story has bias. Fox is certainly right of center with their talking heads. But they are the only network that you can say that about. EVERY other network is left of center. And no one has ever been able to give a reasonable suggestion of where to go for unbiased news in the US.

So, you watch as much as you can and make informed opinions. The fact that FOX is the most trusted name in news (according to the OP) says alot about how little people trust the CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc. of the lineup.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/46 "2010-01-27T03:16:43Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Actually it makes me happy to see that so much of the country can see their hand in front of their face and know that it is a hand. You have yet one more thing to aspire to.

Popularity isn’t truth. And you know yourself that FOX is horribly biased. You’re not stupid enough to be utterly taken in by them, however you are dishonest and vile enough to pretend that you don’t.

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> Also, it makes me happy that this news gets under your skin. It is both a testament to liberal bias and the fairness of Fox. And that’s not just ME saying so, it’s the country, as determined by a poll from your own side! The truth you don’t like is given by your own side! I guess they’re morons, too. Right, imbecile?

Not under my skin. It makes me sad for the country. I know the country is full of stupid people, but sometimes you like to hope that it’s not so full.

FOX is dishonest and blindly ideological. I understand why you like it.

> [@](#):
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> The truth: swallow it, punk.

If Charles Bronson made a gay sex film, I’d want him to say that line. 😃

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/47 "2010-01-27T03:16:56Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Well, doesn’t Beck also wear a suit and tie?

I don’t know. For some reason, I don’t watch him… but I seem to remember he wears sneakers. Or is that Ben Stein?

Who cares. I agree Beck’s an ass clown, so there is nothing to see here.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/48 "2010-01-27T03:19:27Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> In other news, 49% of Americans are total morons.

That’s putting it strongly. I prefer to think they’re just below average.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/49 "2010-01-27T03:22:57Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Not under my skin. It makes me sad for the country. I know the country is full of stupid people, but sometimes you like to hope that it’s not so full.

HA! No, it IS under your skin. You can try to play calm and above it all. But you’re too partisan for that to be believable. So no, this fucking irks you. And it irks you more that I am shoveling it into vacuous cerebellum. But don’t hate the messenger. Hate yourself for being so partisan and myopic. Or, ignore this new information and continue being the broken record that you are.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> If Charles Bronson made a gay sex film, I’d want him to say that line. 😃

Don’t talk with your mouth full, punk.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/50 "2010-01-27T03:23:46Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> Sadly, no. But it \*was \*your intention. That’s what you try to do. You add nothing. And knowing you are a liberal does not speak well for the Democrats.
> 
> I guess I won’t get my PM. What a pity.

I’ve added quite a bit to this thread. I’m not the one who posted a blindly ideological diatribe pretending that FOX is no worse than the other networks. FOX is worse. It’s terrible and not even subtle. It is cheer-leading for small, angry, petty people who would rather be told comfortable lies than know the facts.

That you like it, comes as, shall we say, not a surprise. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/51 "2010-01-27T03:28:05Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> HA! No, it IS under your skin. You can try to play calm and above it all. But you’re too partisan for that to be believable. So no, this fucking irks you. And it irks you more that I am shoveling it into vacuous cerebellum. But don’t hate the messenger. Hate yourself for being so partisan and myopic. Or, ignore this new information and continue being the broken record that you are.

I’m hardly partisan. I look into things before I form strong opinions about them. You however, pretend to have reasons for your opinions (gay marriage) but in actuality you are simply making bad arguments to support your prejudice.

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> Don’t talk with your mouth full, punk.

_ **GULP** _. I said, the last time I saw one like this it was on a female bodybuilder. 😃

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/52 "2010-01-27T03:29:10Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> I’ve added quite a bit to this thread. I’m not the one who posted a blindly ideological diatribe pretending that FOX is no worse than the other networks. FOX is worse. It’s terrible and not even subtle. It is cheer-leading for small, angry, petty people who would rather be told comfortable lies than know the facts.

How old are you?

Seriously. Because if you are over 14, you are an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/53 "2010-01-27T03:32:34Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> How old are you?
> 
> Seriously. Because if you are over 14, you are an idiot.

I might be older than you. I might make more money than you. My wife might be prettier than yours. I might have a higher bench press or a faster mile. What does any of that have to do with the relative merits of yours or my arguments?

You definitely have a nicer watch though. 😃

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/54 "2010-01-27T03:36:13Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Read the book [BIAS](http://www.amazon.com/Bias-Insider-Exposes-Media-Distort/dp/B000ECXDVC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264561872&sr=8-1) by Bernard Goldberg. It will open your eyes.

Funny - post 29 had quotes discussing what the authors felt were unfair and unsubstantiated claims made in (what I believe is) that very book.

Not that I’m asking you to defend Goldberg; heaven knows that the man can defend himself quite well. But there are people who _have_ read the book and are not moved in the way you seem to hope.

I just don’t think this is a perception gap that can be overcome with one book.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/55 "2010-01-27T03:50:25Z")

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Oh look! Another right wing circle jerk.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/56 "2010-01-27T03:56:43Z")

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Since you continue to act like you are “enlightened”, let’s review your participation and value to this thread.

Your first post was just a slam at me.

> [@](#):
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> Well I certainly feel less bad for making you look like a moron in that watch thread now.

as was your second.

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> That’s up to the peanut gallery, wiffle-dick.

And your third

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> Have I gotten a rise out of you? Not my intention. I was simply responding to your drivel. I think you need to calm down and take a nap.

Your fourth post was really different. You really added something to the thread by attempting to slam magellin

> [@](#):
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> Does it make you happy, to know that so much of the country is as stupid as you are?

Your fifth post is just as informative, with these stimulating posts (not opinions, of course.. the truth… at least in your 14 year old world)

> [@](#):
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> Popularity isn’t truth. And you know yourself that FOX is horribly biased. You’re not stupid enough to be utterly taken in by them, however you are dishonest and vile enough to pretend that you don’t.
> 
> Not under my skin. It makes me sad for the country. I know the country is full of stupid people, but sometimes you like to hope that it’s not so full.
> 
> FOX is dishonest and blindly ideological. I understand why you like it.
> 
> If Charles Bronson made a gay sex film, I’d want him to say that line.

and then your sixth post

> [@](#):
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> I’ve added quite a bit to this thread. I’m not the one who posted a blindly ideological diatribe pretending that FOX is no worse than the other networks. FOX is worse. It’s terrible and not even subtle. It is cheer-leading for small, angry, petty people who would rather be told comfortable lies than know the facts.
> 
> That you like it, comes as, shall we say, not a surprise.

You’ve added quite a bit to this thread? Really? Where?

Do I have to go on?

Go away, kid, you’re bothering me. - Foghorn Leghorn

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/57 "2010-01-27T03:59:17Z")

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Oh Look! Another left wing circle jerk.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/58 "2010-01-27T04:05:04Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> Since you continue to act like you are “enlightened”, let’s review your participation and value to this thread.
> 
> Your first post was just a slam at me.
> 
> as was your second.
> 
> And your third
> 
> Your fourth post was really different. You really added something to the thread by attempting to slam magellin
> 
> Your fifth post is just as informative, with these stimulating posts (not opinions, of course.. the truth… at least in your 14 year old world)
> 
> and then your sixth post
> 
> You’ve added quite a bit to this thread? Really? Where?
> 
> Do I have to go on?
> 
> Go away, kid, you’re bothering me. - Foghorn Leghorn

Somebody needs a hug. 😃

I pointed out that you’re a blind ideologue, for one. I’ve pointed out why I feel Magellan is wrong. You seem to be focused on attacking me. Why is that? Don’t like to have people point out your intellectual failures? Just post on the freepers, they’ll circle-jerk with you all day.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/59 "2010-01-27T04:08:29Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> **GIGO** , you posted links from 3 self-described liberal organizations.
> 
> Got anything objective?

I will let others figure out your fallacy.

[http://mediamatters.org/research/200901270026](http://mediamatters.org/research/200901270026)

In any case, this subject can not avoid biased citations, but it is clear that Goldberg can not defend his points as you would expect. (Are you really expecting that you can bring cites like Goldberg and ignore the bias? Really?) What many miss about Media Matters is that they offers citations for what they say, (follow the links and often the Nexis citations show up) Mediamatters was founded by a guy that worked before making the same hatchet jobs for the Right as Golberg is doing now, what happened was that he got a conscience.

> **[Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative: Brock, David:...](https://www.amazon.com/Blinded-Right-Ex-Conservative-David-Brock/dp/0812930991)**
>
> Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative \[Brock, David\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-country-is-fucked-survey-says-fox-now-most-trusted-name-in-news/526580/60 "2010-01-27T04:20:27Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Oh please. I’m no fan of Olbermann, but Glenn Beck is a fucking ass clown. When have you ever seen Olbermann or any professional on any of the other networks cry like a baby or talk in Muppet voices. He’s basically Mancow without the strippers, fart noises or dick jokes.

I remember the crying, but muppet voices? When the hell was that?

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