# This effing thread title mightpop up on the SDMB title page **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 11, 2004, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828 "2004-06-11T15:58:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/81 "2004-06-16T15:49:30Z")
> [@akennett](#): > > And here, in post 68, we come full circle to post 4 - the most reasonable of solutions, overlooked already by the OP. Well so we did. Great minds think alike, as the old saying goes. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/82 "2004-06-16T16:03:25Z")
> [@Arnold Winkelried](#): > > Dear lissener, > I fully admit to the charge of sarcasm. That is often my way of writing. > But instead of dismissing your idea (which has failed to win me over), my post was an attempt to point out to you the difficulties in implementation, with the hope that you would actually engage in a constructive dialogue regarding the devilish details. Unfortunately you did not see it as such: I see that my style of posting does not meet with your approval. I confess that I found your posts to be irascible and self-pitying, two qualities which usually do not bring out my best behaviour. I think it would be a mistake for me to attempt to work on your idea with you because of the possible personality conflicts which would detract from the goal. Therefore I will leave you to approach another staff member with your proposal. > Yours truly, etc. Bullshit. Since when has ANYTHING at this board ever happened because of consensus? I fully understand that it’s not a democracy. Things only happen around here by administrative fiat. Your response was utterly disingenuous. Difficulties in implementation? Utter bullshit. New rule to the Pit sticky: “Please keep the seven deadly words out of Pit titles, as they are often read by unsuspecting first-time visitors to the SDMB front page.” And then of course the difficult-to-implement occasional editing of thread titles, etc. Almost as difficult to implement as Lynn’s bizarre fixation on “joke” threads. Further, if you want to dismiss the substance of the issue I raised because of your personal feelings about my personality, so be it. Glad to see you owning to such childish behavior. Just so it’s clear that the administrators of this board will only consider the ideas of the people they like. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/83 "2004-06-16T16:06:37Z")
> [@akennett](#): > > And here, in post 68, we come full circle to post 4 - the most reasonable of solutions, overlooked already by the OP. Not overlooked; ignored. Because you’re a liar if you call it a reasonable solution. It was a snarky way to suggest that consensus is impossible here, which is of course the case. Your post #4 was in no way meant to communicate anything but “it’ll never happen.” That’s why I ignored it. ---
**Author:** ![akennett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee59a6/32.png) [@akennett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akennett)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/84 "2004-06-16T16:36:49Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Because you’re a liar if you call it a reasonable solution. I see, it is unreasonable to expect that people who pay for the privilege of posting on this board might have something to say about what they can or cannot post? I am so glad to see that you have obtained the ability to read minds, but you may have to hone your skills a little bit. My post was meant to offer what I considered the most reasonable solution to the alleged problem. The presence of words which you, your boss, or a hypothetical viewer may find objectionable is neither a matter of legality nor of extraneous bandwidth usage. Therefore, it is a question that, while the administration obviously _could_ address, is best left to the community as a whole. I would agree that the list of “objectionable” words to be banned from thread titles need not be unanimously agreed (okay, so I sometimes overstate things) to before presenting such a request to the administration. However, I think you should get as large a body as possible to agree to it. As evidenced by this thread, I think the larger portion, at least of the Pit denizens, would strongly oppose this measure. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/85 "2004-06-16T17:30:18Z")
> [@akennett](#): > > . . . My post was meant to offer what I considered the most reasonable solution to the alleged problem. . . . You’re a stone liar. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/86 "2004-06-16T17:54:57Z")
[QUOTE=lissener] Further, if you want to dismiss the substance of the issue I raised because of your personal feelings about my personality, so be it. [QUOTE] **lissener** , I don’t think I’ve ever engaged you before this thread. I generally skip over names and read just the content. The point being, I have no prior opinion of your personality. In my view, no one is dismissing you. In fact, you’ve had several people agree with you. Many of us are disagreeing with you. If enough people disagree with you, including TPTB, chances are your proposed change will not happen. And I personally happen think the idea is, well, dumb, as do some others, so of course some of the replies have been snarky. But if you claim to be “dismissed” every time you don’t get your way, I really don’t think your skin is thick enough for the SDMB. You raised the issue, we’ve debated it for two pages, and it appears you lost. It happens. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/87 "2004-06-16T18:16:46Z")
[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF] [QUOTE=lissener] Further, if you want to dismiss the substance of the issue I raised because of your personal feelings about my personality, so be it. [QUOTE] **lissener** , I don’t think I’ve ever engaged you before this thread. I generally skip over names and read just the content. The point being, I have no prior opinion of your personality. QUOTE]sorry, Troy, I was responding to Arnold’s post in which he explicitly stated that it was my personality specifically that was the reason he wasn’t interested in the issue. And frankly, I wasn’t worried about “winning” or “losing” any debate, at least not to any special degree, because at the Dope the debate is irrelevant: rules are largely enacted by administrative fiat. Not that I have a problem with that; as I’ve agreed, consensus on such things would be virtually impossible here. Only that, once it was clear to me that an administrator was not interested in the issue, only in who suggested it, I was throwing in the towel. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/88 "2004-06-16T18:32:34Z")
And despite its utter irrelevance, let me try to address this totally thread-derailing strawman one final time. My boss, Kyle, has about the foulest mouth I’ve ever encountered. His running joke is that EVERYTHING, no matter what, can be turned into a poop joke. And he has a pretty amazing success rate with this. He was not offended by the _fuckety fuck fuck_s on the front page of the Dope; I am not offended by the _fuckety fuck fuck_s on the front page of the Dope. Further, a big part of my job is spent “surfing”–browsing for design sources and ideas, etc. I have pretty light duties; I’m a friend of the owner and am filling in temporarily while they interview for this position. So my boss has NO problem with me spending time on the Dope. And he has NO problem with the occasional bursts of pottymouth that flash across the welcome page from time to time. My POINT in initiating this based on the incident I described in the OP was that Kyle’s immediate assumption, from the pottymouth, was that the Dope couldn’t possibly be a reliable source of information; that it was OBVIOUSLY just a bunch of idiots with too much time on their hands. I had to defend THE DOPE, not _myself_. I had to explain that, yes, his first impression was accurate: the Dope IS just a bunch of idiots with too much time on their hands–but it’s so much MORE! Can this be an end on the lissener-at-work strawman please? But what ---
**Author:** ![galt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@galt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galt)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/89 "2006-04-25T17:14:24Z")
Bored of attempting to read the entire thread, I can’t tell if anyone’s thrown this particular point in or not, so I’ll throw it and run: If we’re going to use the rationale that “the SDMB is not intended to be safe-for-work so we should have free reign in pit thread titles,” then why do we have the two-click rule in member profiles and links in threads? I’d think restraint in thread titles would fall into the same category of “don’t cause people to accidentally have offensive stuff on their screen when they’re just here to get a question answered.” Personally, I’m not bothered by the thread titles, but I sure wouldn’t complain if they were either 1) required to be work-safe, or 2) not displayed on the main page. ---
**Author:** ![galt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@galt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galt)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/90 "2006-04-25T17:16:23Z")
Oh wow, that’s a really old thread. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/91 "2006-04-25T18:15:36Z")
Well, I was reading happily along, not noticing the age until I saw the post from Aldebaran. Man, that was a flashback. ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828/92 "2006-04-25T19:03:14Z")
I’m returning this zombie thread to the sweet slumber of its eternal rest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-effing-thread-title-mightpop-up-on-the-sdmb-title-page/249828.md?page=4)