# This forum is not as exciting since adaher left.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 27, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270 "2012-11-27T15:44:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/1 "2012-11-27T15:44:26Z")

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Apologies to all the other conservatives but that guy went HAM\* for the Republican cause. He was in every thread arguing polls, debates, campaign rhetoric, you name it. Then he just disappeared like Keyser Soze’(Verbal Kint?) Or maybe it’s post-election withdrawal. But I’m pretty sure that his ‘no longer posting’ is part of said withdrawal.

HAM = hard as a motherfucker

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/2 "2012-11-27T15:53:05Z")

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There were a lot of pre-election wagers being made. Did adaher make a bet at some point about not posting if Obama won?

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/3 "2012-11-27T15:55:47Z")

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I tried.

Methinks he was just yanking our chains.

HAM.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/4 "2012-11-27T16:06:08Z")

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> [@enomaj](#):
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> Apologies to all the other conservatives but that guy went HAM\* for the Republican cause. He was in every thread arguing polls, debates, campaign rhetoric, you name it. Then he just disappeared like Keyser Soze’(Verbal Kint?) Or maybe it’s post-election withdrawal. But I’m pretty sure that his ‘no longer posting’ is part of said withdrawal.
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> HAM = hard as a motherfucker

If you look at his posting history he has a track record of vanishing for long periods (months to years) in the past. His join date is 2003 so he has been around for some time and I suspect he will be back at some point.

Just licking his wounds and pouting I suspect.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/5 "2012-11-27T17:20:54Z")

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Maybe he “went Galt”?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/6 "2012-11-27T17:53:15Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Methinks he was just yanking our chains.

This is awfully close to an accusation of trolling.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/7 "2012-11-27T18:21:09Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> If you look at his posting history he has a track record of vanishing for long periods (months to years) in the past. His join date is 2003 so he has been around for some time and I suspect he will be back at some point.
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> Just licking his wounds and pouting I suspect.

What are the odds he has a lot of posts around 2003-2004 and 2007-2008?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/8 "2012-11-27T18:46:54Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Methinks he was just yanking our chains.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> This is awfully close to an accusation of trolling.

It does, now that you mention it.

Boy I betcha hope **adaher** doesn’t come back and report that post, don’t you, **prr**?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/9 "2012-11-27T18:51:54Z")

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This thread isn’t a Pitting right now, but if its main purpose is mocking **adaher** I will move it there or close it. In the meantime, follow the rules for this forum.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/10 "2012-11-27T23:16:58Z")

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I felt kind of sorry for **adaher** the morning after the election. The guy wasn’t faking it; he had not a shred of doubt that Romney was going to win. I wonder how it must feel to believe in something so fervently and be shown to be so utterly, utterly wrong.

If I’m not mistaken, I believe **adaher** is an older guy. I hope he’s okay.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/11 "2012-11-27T23:29:08Z")

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I found his [last](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15666908#post15666908) pre-election post interesting…

> [@If Romney wins, who'll be the GOP nominee in 2016?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/if-romney-wins-wholl-be-the-gop-nominee-in-2016/640046/15):
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> Fortunately, America isn’t staunchly red or blue, so a successful President of either party should easily win reelection and always does. Actually, mediocre Presidents usually get reelected too.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/12 "2012-11-28T00:21:09Z")

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I may have disagreed with him 100% of the time, but I thought he was a pleasant enough fellow. I wish him well and hope he returns.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/13 "2012-11-28T02:15:40Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> There were a lot of pre-election wagers being made. Did adaher make a bet at some point about not posting if Obama won?

I kept my eyes open for something like this, and AFAIK adaher never put anything substantive where is mouth was. OMG, in contrast, made some actual predictions: I thought his pitting was _confused_: it didn’t assess OMG properly and it missed out on adaher.  
Adaher gave every appearance of working or volunteering for the Romney campaign, notwithstanding the appearance of ambivalence in his earlier summer 2012 posts. When the election ended, further spinning became pointless. And it was spin: adaher rarely provided citations and even objected to the very idea of providing such substantiation in an ATMB thread. But he always had an answer for everything, even if it was made up. This behavior is problematic, since it’s much faster to blow smoke than to assemble a real argument. And it annoyed me when he answered a factual inquiry about businesses Romney had turned around, only to find later that his claims didn’t remotely survive scrutiny.

What’s the appropriate response to this ignorance-enhancing nonsense? Well the first step is to confirm the _modus operandi_, assuming the best. After that, stonewalling the poster with characterizations of their posts (i.e. they are uncited, unsubstantiated) within forum-appropriate limits, is one possible option.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/14 "2012-11-28T03:25:20Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> … Adaher gave every appearance of working or volunteering for the Romney campaign…

Perhaps he was misdirected by the ORCA program into some non-existent corner of Rimneyville and has yet to find his way back.

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**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/15 "2012-11-28T05:25:41Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> This thread isn’t a Pitting right now, but if its main purpose is mocking **adaher** I will move it there or close it. In the meantime, follow the rules for this forum.

Not my purpose for starting it but I would have liked to hear what he had to say post-election.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/16 "2012-11-28T06:21:10Z")

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What, no love for **OMG** , who disappeared only one day later than **adaher**?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/17 "2012-11-28T06:27:41Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> I felt kind of sorry for **adaher** the morning after the election. The guy wasn’t faking it; he had not a shred of doubt that Romney was going to win. I wonder how it must feel to believe in something so fervently and be shown to be so utterly, utterly wrong.
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> If I’m not mistaken, I believe **adaher** is an older guy. I hope he’s okay.

You know, when doomsday cults see the day they’re sure is the last day of the world come and pass, do they become disillusioned and realize how wrong they were? No, actually, they become more fervent than ever. Somehow, being utterly sure you’re right at something and then being proven wrong actually increases your conviction that you were right, paradoxically. In the doomsday case, they figure out that they forgot to carry a 1 somewhere, and the apocalypse actually happens in 3 years.

In Adaher’s case, I don’t know - maybe he’s having tea parties with dolls that represent Romney’s cabinet resurrecting our country. AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/18 "2012-11-28T06:28:28Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> What, no love for **OMG** , who disappeared only one day later than **adaher**?

Hmmm? He’s still here, was posting today in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=671456&page=5) thread in fact.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/19 "2012-11-28T06:31:35Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> What, no love for **OMG** , who disappeared only one day later than **adaher**?

**OMG** has been active since the election. **adaher** last logged in Nov. 9.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-forum-is-not-as-exciting-since-adaher-left/642270/20 "2012-11-28T06:43:23Z")

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I wish he’d come back, not so we can beat him up, but to hear how he thinks about the election, and what the next issue is for him since then. Adaher!

ETA: I’m really gratified than OMG stuck it out. It is good to have dissenting voices here.

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