# This fucking upgrade SUCKS! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 2, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689 "2008-09-02T15:40:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/61 "2008-09-03T03:53:10Z")
> [@Uncommon\_Sense](#): > > Howzabout we all go play somewhere else for a while so that Jerry and whomever else has stuff to do around here can get it done with out all the constant bashing of the hamsters in the process, huh? Actually, in the sticky, Jerry said the only way to track down problems is under load, so we need to post even more if he is to make any progress. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/62 "2008-09-03T03:55:40Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Actually, in the sticky, Jerry said the only way to track down problems is under load, so we need to post even more if he is to make any progress. pretty sure he meant _after_ all the fixes are done. Not during.šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/63 "2008-09-03T03:57:41Z")
> [@Uncommon\_Sense](#): > > pretty sure he meant _after_ all the fixes are done. Not during.šŸ˜‰ How would that work? Kind of hard to track down problems after they have been fixedā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/64 "2008-09-03T03:58:59Z")
> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#): > > I guess itā€™s growing pains and itā€™s going to get better, right? Board is slow, connections failing all day. No great shakes over here, but I hope in a week or so Iā€™ll see some improvement. Right now itā€™s the worst Iā€™ve ever seen it, performance wise. Maybe itā€™s just me? Yes and no; yes, it was bad - to the point of being unusable - for me earlier. But itā€™s been improving rapidly. ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/65 "2008-09-03T04:02:28Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > How would that work? Kind of hard to track down problems after they have been fixedā€¦ I can state with reasonable confidence that Jerry is not working on this _right now_. Itā€™s 11pm on a Tuesday night. Heā€™s sound alseep. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/66 "2008-09-03T04:02:37Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Yes and no; yes, it was bad - to the point of being unusable - for me earlier. But itā€™s been improving rapidly. Didnā€™t you used to be a Charter Member? Yeah, me too. The board seems to be struggle for about an hour or so, timing out and generally sucking, then come to life for 20 minutes, then fall off a cliff again. Its been this way all day. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/67 "2008-09-03T04:09:48Z")
> [@Uncommon\_Sense](#): > > I can state with reasonable confidence that Jerry is not working on this _right now_. Itā€™s 11pm on a Tuesday night. Heā€™s sound alseep. So, why do we need to stop posting then? ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/68 "2008-09-03T04:13:45Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So, why do we need to stop posting then? Itā€™s just a recommendation. I think itā€™ll help things get done faster. Start tomorrow morning if itā€™ll make you feel better. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/69 "2008-09-03T04:16:22Z")
It seems to be pretty stable (and quick) right now. I would surmise that the up-and-down-ness has been Jerry futzing with the server. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/70 "2008-09-03T04:41:58Z")
_The Straight Dope Message Board has been moved to the new server. **Until we update the DNS entry for the message board** you can access it at its temporary URL of [http://boardstest.straightdope.com/sdmb/.](http://boardstest.straightdope.com/sdmb/.)_ The explanation about coming to [boardtest.straightdope.com](http://boardtest.straightdope.com) until they update the DNS doesnā€™t make sense. ā€œ[straightdope.com](http://straightdope.com)ā€ is the domain name. ā€œBoardsā€ and ā€œboardtestā€ that come between ā€œhttp://ā€ and ā€œstraightdopeā€ are LOCAL hostnames. You donā€™t have to do anything but tell your config file where to go and restart the server. The registered domain name has nothing to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/71 "2008-09-03T05:19:47Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > The OP was right. Board performance sucks. Itā€™s really a black hole. I canā€™t edit, join the social groups, performance is so slow thereā€™s been numerous time outs, thereā€™s no quick reply. > > Tell me, wasnā€™t this board supposed to improve? And the first poster who tells me to be patient gets a virtual punch in the face. Iā€™ve been patient for months, as we all have. The Lost Weekend sucked, but I put up with it. Hell, back when we went PTP I actually supported it, because I still believed that things would improve. After so many promises Iā€™m out of ā€œpatientā€ I guess Iā€™ll stand up and take the face punch. We are getting the upgrades that we bitched and moaned for years about being promised and not getting. Youā€™ve been patient for months, so be a grown up and be patient for a couple more days. Weā€™ll all join in the bitchfest if it doesnā€™t get better in a reasonable time, but this is far too early for it. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/72 "2008-09-03T06:09:52Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > I guess Iā€™ll stand up and take the face punch. We are getting the upgrades that we bitched and moaned for years about being promised and not getting. Thatā€™s a fair point, more or less. Iā€™ll counter that a) I see little (okay, no) new things that I care about that have been upgraded, and b) the one thing I do care about ā€“ board stability and performance ā€“ has gotten much worse. > [@](#): > > Youā€™ve been patient for months, so be a grown up and be patient for a couple more days. Weā€™ll all join in the bitchfest if it doesnā€™t get better in a reasonable time, but this is far too early for it. Youā€™re probably right, but Iā€™ve been patient for years ā€“ freaking years ā€“ and things have gotten very very marginally better in all that time. Theyā€™re pretty much sucking today, and Iā€™m in little mood to be patient. This was a planned upgrade, they rolled it out carefullyā€¦ and its so far a disaster. Maybe things will be better in a couple of days, but I do pay a fee to be here and weā€™re on the third upgrade that I can recall and Iā€™d like to think that at some point someone would actually get competent at upgrading the goddamn board! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/73 "2008-09-03T06:20:12Z")
So people are still getting the poor board performance that existed this afternoon? Because Iā€™ve been using this board for the past two hours and itā€™s been running perfectly normally. I thought whatever was causing the timeouts and such had been fixed. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/74 "2008-09-03T09:33:15Z")
Seems good! ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/75 "2008-09-03T09:40:54Z")
I am getting ā€œRun Time Errorsā€ Line 12 Code 0 null is null or not an object I can not access the ā€œthread toolsā€ option on the tool bar. Any ideas on why this is so.:mad: ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/76 "2008-09-03T12:37:14Z")
First it sucks, and then it blowsā€¦ but like a two dollar hooker, unfortunately. Only joshing, it seems oka ---
**Author:** ![overlyverbose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9dc877/32.png) [@overlyverbose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/overlyverbose)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/77 "2008-09-03T13:59:58Z")
I agree - I still see ads, but itā€™s working much better today. I feel bad for the mods sometime. Iā€™m totally addicted to the Straight Dope and get edgy when I canā€™t get my fix. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/78 "2008-09-03T17:26:32Z")
Some time outs, but when it works, itā€™s snappy. ---
**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/79 "2008-09-03T17:33:57Z")
Iā€™ve tried 3 times in the past two days to post, only to be left with a blank screen and innumerable timeouts lasting a long-ass time. :mad: Donā€™t know why Iā€™m even bothering with this oneā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689/80 "2008-09-03T20:21:37Z")
Meh, is anyone really expecting anything different? Itā€™ll just be the same old, same old. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-fucking-upgrade-sucks/461689.md?page=5)