# This girl does not look 15

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 10, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676 "2012-06-10T03:21:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/21 "2012-06-11T21:18:22Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> She really does not
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> [MEET Bianca Black - the 15-year-old who will represent Aussie teens at the international Miss Teenager Pageant.](http://www.couriermail.com.au/entertainment/confidential/mermaid-waters-bianca-black-15-to-represent-australia-for-the-first-time-at-the-international-miss-teenager-pageant/story-e6freq7o-1226387973409)

I would have guessed she was about 24.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/22 "2012-06-11T21:44:13Z")

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The girl in the OP looks 15 to the eyes of this poster who has worked with teenagers for eight years now. Sure, she’s a mature looking 15, made up to look picture perfect, but she’s still 15 looking. I’ve got plenty of students that share similar looks.

Now, if you want to talk someone who doesn’t look their age at all, let’s talk about [Courtney Stodden](http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/courtney-stodden-the-16-year-old-bride)- 16 year old child bride of actor Doug Hutchinson. Ok, she’s like, 17 now, but she’s still under age and likes to do really tashy photoshoots. Go ahead, Google some and wonder to yourself how a 16 and 17 year old child can look so much like a 45 year old smoker.

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/23 "2012-06-11T21:46:41Z")

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I blame chicken nuggets.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/24 "2012-06-11T22:07:10Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> She really does not
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> [MEET Bianca Black - the 15-year-old who will represent Aussie teens at the international Miss Teenager Pageant.](http://www.couriermail.com.au/entertainment/confidential/mermaid-waters-bianca-black-15-to-represent-australia-for-the-first-time-at-the-international-miss-teenager-pageant/story-e6freq7o-1226387973409)

Sure she does - a 15 year old made up for a photo-shoot, but I could still buy 15 easily.

> [@runner pat](#):
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> And [this girl](http://www.bizofshowbiz.com/2007/09/exploitive_mother_defends_12ye.html) does not look 12.

Ditto as above - I could totally believe 12.

> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Now, if you want to talk someone who doesn’t look their age at all, let’s talk about [Courtney Stodden](http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/courtney-stodden-the-16-year-old-bride)- 16 year old child bride of actor Doug Hutchinson. Ok, she’s like, 17 now, but she’s still under age and likes to do really tashy photoshoots. Go ahead, Google some and wonder to yourself how a 16 and 17 year old child can look so much like a 45 year old smoker.

Yeppers. When you compare the first two to poor Courtney, they look positively breezy and fresh. I have no idea how a 16 (17) year old girl can make herself look so used up and hard. ☹

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**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/25 "2012-06-11T22:14:32Z")

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Push up Bra - Check  
Professional Make Up - Check  
Professional Lighting - Check  
Making a child look like a woman - Priceless

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/26 "2012-06-11T22:25:14Z")

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> [@dngnb8](#):
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> Push up Bra - Check

When I was 15, my tits were that awesome without a bra. Sigh, memories. . .

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/27 "2012-06-12T00:23:17Z")

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We demand to see the long form birth certificate.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/28 "2012-06-12T01:35:42Z")

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Right. From the photograph alone, not having the benefit to gage level of maturity from a conversation, I could believe that’s a picture of someone who’s 15 but I could equally as well believe she were 21, if all I had were your say-so. They sure are feeding them well Down Under :p.

As to ability of someone 15 to “pass” for 18+ if others do not do really put a lot of effort into their due diligence, two words: Traci Lords.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/29 "2012-06-12T01:49:31Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Now, if you want to talk someone who doesn’t look their age at all, let’s talk about [Courtney Stodden](http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/courtney-stodden-the-16-year-old-bride)- 16 year old child bride of actor Doug Hutchinson.

Somehow, fiftysomething Doug Hutchinson has manged to become even creepier than Eugene Toombs, the terrifying character he played in the X-Files episode “Squeeze”.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/30 "2012-06-12T02:07:06Z")

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She does look like a fifteen-year-old with lots of make-up on. That’s not the same as what adults often expect 15-year-olds to look like - good god, Jim, that’s a child!

The 12-year-old just looks 12. She doesn’t even look old for 12.

But then, my 13-year-old daughter and her friends have to carry ID to prove they are as young as they say they are because nobody ever believes them, and they don’t wear make-up or try to look or act old, they just went through puberty early and are tall, like many kids these days.

At her Guides (Girl Scouts) troop there was a six foot tall busty ten-year-old who, like my daughter, was actually rather innocent and young for her age. It was a bit odd watching them all playing musical chairs with child-like gusto when they were all taller than me, and I’m not short.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/31 "2012-06-12T06:44:56Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> But yeah, I would NOT have guessed 15 for the girl in the OP. She has those perfectly normal but odd for her age fat pads on the top of her hips that girls don’t usually get until their early 20’s when they’ve stopped gaining height.

Yeah well, to me they came with that package I gained in 7th grade, in 3 months, along with every other curve in my body. I’m surprised by the “early 20’s… stop gaining height” bit: I only know a couple of women who were still growing beyond 18, and both are extremely tall.

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**Author:** ![gunnergoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e95f7d/32.png) [@gunnergoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gunnergoz)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/32 "2012-06-12T07:04:08Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> (snip)  
> Now, if you want to talk someone who doesn’t look their age at all, let’s talk about [Courtney Stodden](http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/courtney-stodden-the-16-year-old-bride)- 16 year old child bride of actor Doug Hutchinson. Ok, she’s like, 17 now, but she’s still under age and likes to do really tashy photoshoots. Go ahead, Google some and wonder to yourself how a 16 and 17 year old child can look so much like a 45 year old smoker.

Man, I’d never heard of her (or him) before this and marvel at how anyone in their right mind would want to do this to themselves (age so fast, look so hard and trashy) or want to marry them to begin with. Love is not only blind, it can be tasteless. Somehow, I don’t envy their kids.

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**Author:** ![bahia\_hombre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@bahia\_hombre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bahia_hombre)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/33 "2012-06-12T12:44:36Z")

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Reminds me of the (very voluptuous) 15 year old who was recently not permitted to roam Disney World in her Tinkerbell costume…she must eat a lot of chicken 😉

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/34 "2012-06-12T14:30:43Z")

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> [@bahia\_hombre](#):
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> Reminds me of the (very voluptuous) 15 year old who was recently not permitted to roam Disney World in her Tinkerbell costume…she must eat a lot of chicken 😉

Reminds me of that ridiculous [Can a minor ever look older than 18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=562643&highlight=alcohol) thread we had a while back.

I’d say the minor in the OP definitely qualifies.

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**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/35 "2012-06-12T15:31:15Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> When I was 15, my tits were that awesome without a bra. Sigh, memories. . .

In the red dress, theyre squished up. Boobs dont have that bulbage over the top naturally. Its either a push up, or implant

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**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/36 "2012-06-12T15:33:30Z")

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It seems to me that the farther adults get away from childhood, the more childish they think children are or should be.

People are so hung up insisting that a 15 year old is “just a kid!” that they start to believe that they should look like 11 year olds.

She is a young woman. I am sure she is not as intellectually and emotionally mature as a 25 year old, but she is still a young woman.

We have absolute morons that are 30, but they don’t get called children.

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**Author:** ![the\_apples\_fell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@the\_apples\_fell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_apples_fell)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/37 "2012-06-12T15:33:54Z")

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People nowadays often do not look their age… I am almost 20 and people think I am 16. It happens both ways.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/38 "2012-06-12T15:58:51Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> When I was 15, my tits were that awesome without a bra. Sigh, memories. . .

Plural?

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**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/39 "2012-06-12T16:32:04Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Plural?

Yeah, believe it or not, most of us have two!

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**Author:** ![5f4super](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/b5ac83/32.png) [@5f4super](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5f4super)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-girl-does-not-look-15/624676/40 "2012-06-12T20:33:13Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> And [this girl](http://www.bizofshowbiz.com/2007/09/exploitive_mother_defends_12ye.html) does not look 12.

She does to me.

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