# This "god warrior" is fucking insane **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 27, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452 "2006-08-27T20:56:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/21 "2006-08-28T14:08:21Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] True, but it is a sign of enormous hypocrisy on the part of someone who holds others to a fundmentalist Christian moral code that considers pre-marital sex a sin. [/QUOTE] Why? The same code also considers most people sinners and thinks they should be forgiven for their sins. Plus, she didn’t do it, her daughter did. Is the daughter a fundamentalist Christian too? Was she when she got pregnant at seventeen? Are you blaming the 17 year old girl for being a hypocrite? That seems kind of harsh. Is the mom bad because she didn’t kick her out? I just don’t get why you’d want to criticize them for doing things you don’t actually think are wrong. What would be hypocritical would be if they _had_ kicked the girl out, or made her have an abortion or something. Keeping her in is for once completely in line with real Christian values. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/22 "2006-08-28T14:17:35Z")
[QUOTE=Mama Tiger] **lisacurl** , did you talk to any of her family? I’d avoid her like the plague, too, but her family did seem a lot more tolerable. [/QUOTE] Heh, no… honestly, with the family mini-dramas and running herd on my mother to make sure she didn’t create more, I completely forgot that the God Warrior was supposed to be there. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/23 "2006-08-28T14:36:17Z")
[QUOTE=Ensign Edison] Keeping her in is for once completely in line with real Christian values. [/QUOTE] As has been pointed out, this whack-job has nothing to do with real Christian values, so I would expect none from her. I would, however, expect her to denounce fornication “in Jesus name, I pray!” as vociferously as she does tarot cards. Hence the hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/24 "2006-08-28T14:42:42Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] As has been pointed out, this whack-job has nothing to do with real Christian values, so I would expect none from her. I would, however, expect her to denounce fornication “in Jesus name, I pray!” as vociferously as she does tarot cards. Hence the hypocrisy. [/QUOTE] You’re criticizing her for being hypocritical to a pretend value system which you think is immoral? The only way she could not be a hypocrite is by throwing out her pregnant daughter? I don’t think hypocrisy means someone doing something other than what you would expect, but doing something other than what they say. Regardless of whether you think she believes in them, the Christian tenants she claims to adhere to include forgiveness. So she’s not being hypocritical at all. If she said she was a mean ol’ bitch who hated all sinners along with the sins, and then didn’t kick our her pregnant daughter, she might be a hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/25 "2006-08-28T15:08:50Z")
[QUOTE=Ensign Edison] You’re criticizing her for being hypocritical to a pretend value system which you think is immoral? [/QUOTE] No, what I think is immoral is not at issue; it is consistency of the God Warrior’s morality. > [@](#): > > The only way she could not be a hypocrite is by throwing out her pregnant daughter? When did I say she should throw out her daughter? A simple cursing in Jesus’ name would suffice. > [@](#): > > Regardless of whether you think she believes in them, the Christian tenants she claims to adhere to include forgiveness. Then she is being hypocritical by not forgiving the tarot card readers. Either way, she’s a hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/26 "2006-08-28T15:22:21Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] True, but it is a sign of enormous hypocrisy on the part of someone who holds others to a fundmentalist Christian moral code that considers pre-marital sex a sin. [/QUOTE] What would you have her do? Cast the sinner out so she never intrudes on her holy aura again? You think Christians have to disconnect from anyone who sins lest we be considered hypocritical? ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/27 "2006-08-28T15:28:21Z")
Whoops, I didn’t realize there was a second page. :smack: I see now that **Fear Itself** is just being what he considers “cute.” Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/28 "2006-08-28T15:34:23Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] No, what I think is immoral is not at issue; it is consistency of the God Warrior’s morality. [/quote] I think it is at issue. If you condemn someone for doing something you think is right, are you not a hypocrite? > [@](#): > > When did I say she should throw out her daughter? A simple cursing in Jesus’ name would suffice. For all we know, she locked her daughter in the Prayer Closet for a month for having premarital sex. She should keep ranting about it five years later, with the little girl around? > [@](#): > > Then she is being hypocritical by not forgiving the tarot card readers. Either way, she’s a hypocrite. Not if the tarot card readers didn’t ask forgiveness but her daughter did. There are plenty of valid reasons to mock and disparage the God Warrior, but this one isn’t, and it’s stupid besides. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/29 "2006-08-28T15:43:08Z")
[QUOTE=Ensign Edison] I think it is at issue. If you condemn someone for doing something you think is right, are you not a hypocrite? [/QUOTE] I don’t know what you are talking about, and neither do you. > [@](#): > > For all we know, she locked her daughter in the Prayer Closet for a month for having premarital sex. > > … > > Not if the tarot card readers didn’t ask forgiveness but her daughter did. Do you have personal knowledge that any of this happened, or are you just pulling it all out of your ass? > [@](#): > > There are plenty of valid reasons to mock and disparage the God Warrior, but this one isn’t, and it’s stupid besides. Ouch! The impenetrable “your argument is stupid” logic! Life just isn’t worth living! ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/30 "2006-08-28T15:51:35Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] I don’t know what you are talking about, and neither do you.Do you have personal knowledge that any of this happened, or are you just pulling it all out of your ass?Ouch! The impenetrable “your argument is stupid” logic! Life just isn’t worth living! [/QUOTE] Your argument hinges on the following: 1. That GW did not condemn what her daughter did. You don’t know that. I don’t either. I’m not the one making a claim based on it. 2. That if a fundamentalist Christian condemns one person and not another, they are being hypocritical. But their tenants say forgiveness is extended to those who want it. So you’re assuming that the daughter did not ask for it and the tarot card readers did, to make your claim. Condemning their work as “dark-sided” is not hypocritical according to her religion because of the whole hate the sin/love the sinner thing. I know you’re just fucking around now, but that’s fine by me, because it helps me show how stupid it is to criticize this woman for loving her daughter and granddaughter. Replace “DAARK SIIIDED” with “HYYYPOCRIIIIT” and you have the very image of how rational such a claim is in this case. The problem is NOT that she’s a hypocrite. The problem is that she’s an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/31 "2006-08-28T17:28:30Z")
NOT “TENANTS”, “TENETS”!!! ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/32 "2006-08-28T17:55:15Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] NOT “TENANTS”, “TENETS”!!! [/QUOTE] I’ll spell it right if you promise never to use mulitple exclamation marks ever again. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/33 "2006-08-28T19:36:44Z")
The multiple exclamation points did their job, which was to get your attention. I don’t see any need to bring them out and fling them at you again. And it’s not a question of spelling it right; it’s a question of using the [right](http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/tenant) [word](http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/tenet). ---
**Author:** ![Alonzo\_John\_Blitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@Alonzo\_John\_Blitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alonzo_John_Blitz)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/34 "2006-08-28T20:01:11Z")
Originally Posted by **George Kaplin** … Well…they say the LSD stays in the fat cells for years _That_ explains a lot … ooh, look … groovy! ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/35 "2006-08-28T20:48:15Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] The multiple exclamation points did their job, which was to get your attention. I don’t see any need to bring them out and fling them at you again. And it’s not a question of spelling it right; it’s a question of using the [right](http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/tenant) [word](http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/tenet). [/QUOTE] Unless you think I meant to speak of the occupants of her religion, obviously it is a case of spelling it wrong. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2006, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/36 "2006-08-28T21:42:05Z")
The saddest part is that I’m pretty sure Fox has not rerun it. Which is surprising, since they could probably run it once a week and still get decent ratings–it’s THAT good! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2006, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452/37 "2006-08-29T05:56:15Z")
[QUOTE=Ensign Edison] Unless you think I meant to speak of the occupants of her religion, obviously it is a case of spelling it wrong. [/QUOTE] Okay. P.S. Practice SAYING “tenets” for a while, and you’ll never spell it with an “nt” sound again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-god-warrior-is-fucking-insane/370452.md?page=1)