# This has to stop: extreme actions at political gathering

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 24, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927 "2019-11-24T19:15:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/321 "2019-11-28T00:39:05Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> I don’t understand why someone would block a 4500 lb vehicle while wearing a mask and then strike the door with a stick. doesn’t appear rational to me.

So you recommend getting out and asking him to find out or something? If you’re that scared of the guy, drive away. Even if you’re not, drive away so you can tell your friends about the weirdo.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/322 "2019-11-28T00:40:49Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Yeah, but you’re a fucking lunatic so your opinion on what seems rational prolly doesn’t carry any weight to anyone but you.

Best of luck playing in traffic.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/323 "2019-11-28T01:04:59Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> So you recommend getting out and asking him to find out or something? If you’re that scared of the guy, drive away. Even if you’re not, drive away so you can tell your friends about the weirdo.

No, I don’t recommend it. I also don’t recommend wearing masks and blocking traffic. Blocking someone is confrontational. Doing it wearing a mask ramps up the concern. Continuing to do it ramps it up more.

If you don’t understand that fucking with people is a poor life choice then you’re not going to enjoy the journey.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/324 "2019-11-28T01:28:23Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> {…} Explain how you know he isn’t armed given his erratic behavior.

Umm, surely you aren’t suggesting a correlation between ‘armed’ and ‘erratic’.  
You do understand the implication of that right?

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/325 "2019-11-28T01:38:31Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Best of luck playing in traffic.

I’d have to say that’s not really a cool thing to say, even as an insult, in a discussion, albeit a BBQ Pit discussion, about someone who was killed with a vehicle used as the weapon.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/326 "2019-11-28T01:51:24Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I’d have to say that’s not really a cool thing to say, even as an insult, in a discussion, albeit a BBQ Pit discussion, about someone who was killed with a vehicle used as the weapon.

That’s not what the BBQ Pit discussion was about.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/327 "2019-11-28T13:25:18Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> a random polish neo-nazi

It’s disheartening that this can be a thing when there are still hundreds of thousands of people alive who remember WWII.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/328 "2019-11-28T13:58:36Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> No, I don’t recommend it. I also don’t recommend wearing masks and blocking traffic. Blocking someone is confrontational. Doing it wearing a mask ramps up the concern. Continuing to do it ramps it up more.
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> If you don’t understand that fucking with people is a poor life choice then you’re not going to enjoy the journey.

1. We still don’t know what kind of mask it was…if it was a mask at all.
2. _You_ seem to enjoy fucking with people here-is this a poor life choice on your part?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/329 "2019-11-28T15:19:10Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> No, I don’t recommend it. I also don’t recommend wearing masks and blocking traffic. Blocking someone is confrontational. Doing it wearing a mask ramps up the concern. Continuing to do it ramps it up more.
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> If you don’t understand that fucking with people is a poor life choice then you’re not going to enjoy the journey.

Oh, I don’t know. Watching you dance your dance here is providing me with some small entertainment. And I’m still getting a chuckle out of the OP’s description of this occurrence as “extreme action” too.

As far as I’m concerned, it’s a shame the dude dropped his stick. He could have used it to explain to the driver that trying to run people over is, as the saying goes, a poor life choice.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/330 "2019-11-28T15:36:08Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Not at all what I’m asking. But you _know_ that.
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> I’ll assume you don’t want to answer the questions as posed, for reasons you also don’t wish to disclose. Duly noted.

Note the weasel keeps blathering about instigating violence - _as if “both sides do it”_.

He never talks about **responding** to it.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/331 "2019-11-28T15:55:35Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> 1. We still don’t know what kind of mask it was…if it was a mask at all.

wow? seriously?  
2. _You_ seem to enjoy fucking with people here-is this a poor life choice on your part?  
[/QUOTE]  
sounds like you need a safe room in case you hear something you don’t like.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/332 "2019-11-28T15:58:11Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> wow? seriously?  
> 2. _You_ seem to enjoy fucking with people here-is this a poor life choice on your part?

sounds like you need a safe room in case you hear something you don’t like.  
[/QUOTE]

Looks like YOU are the one getting triggered. Buck up, snowflake.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/333 "2019-11-28T16:01:08Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I notice you were careful enough to clarify that it is specifically right wing hypocrisy that makes you sick. A bit of honesty! So rare.

I wonder if you even know what your point is. To conform with your dictum, I suppose that next time I write  
“Ferocious pit bulls make me afraid”  
I’ll need to give equal time to both sides by writing  
“A petite poodle might make me afraid too, if it were ferocious enough.”  
**Has any politician from the Party of Truth and Human Rights ever uttered an hypocrisy?** _Sure!_  
**In our epoch, do hypocrisies from the Party of Greed, Hatred and Lies outnumber hypocrisies from the Truth & Human Party by twenty-to-one?** _No; it’s more like a hundred-to-one._

Get your eyes off [Redstate.Com](http://Redstate.Com) or Fox’s Blonds’R’Us or whatever your garbage source is and watch PBS or CSPAN. Surely even your ilk would call these neutral. Do that and see that  
_Every.single.syllable.from.an.R.Congressman is a Lie and/or a Hypocrisy, these days._  
Do that; see the light; post a retraction — _ **Then we can welcome you back to the tribe of sentient Dopers.** _ 🙂

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/334 "2019-11-28T16:03:33Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> wow? seriously?  
> 2. _You_ seem to enjoy fucking with people here-is this a poor life choice on your part?

I’m just reporting what I see, as opposed to what you are doing…whatever the fuck _that_ is.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/335 "2019-11-28T16:19:08Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I’m just reporting what I see, as opposed to what you are doing…whatever the fuck _that_ is.

I’ll leave you to your insults. I’ll be enjoying the company of family and friends today.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/336 "2019-11-28T16:23:17Z")

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I can easily believe you have family.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/337 "2019-11-28T16:34:30Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> I’ll leave you to your insults. I’ll be enjoying the company of family and friends today.

> [@Jean-Paul Sartre](#):
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> Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Not that it strictly applies to anti-Semites of course.

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**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/338 "2019-11-28T22:08:48Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> It’s disheartening that this can be a thing when there are still hundreds of thousands of people alive who remember WWII.

Especially given how the Nazis felt about Poles.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/339 "2019-11-28T23:22:25Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Maybe we should stop assuming that the guy who hedged for like a page on whether or not Heather Hayes was responsible for her own murder at the hand of neo-nazis has anything of value to say on…
> 
> …anything. At all. Seriously, just stop responding to him. He’s a fucking tool and the sooner everyone stops reading and quoting what he says, the better.

QFT, and in honor of an unjustly banned poster. He may have lost his cool now and then, but he contributed a lot more to this board than any of the people who pissed him off did. That banning sucked.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/340 "2019-11-28T23:26:09Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> I’ll leave you to your insults. I’ll be enjoying the company of family and friends today.

I’ll say it since BPC can’t: Fuck you and fuck your family and friends, asshole.

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