# This has to stop: extreme actions at political gathering **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 24, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927 "2019-11-24T19:15:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/461 "2019-12-05T19:17:46Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Is that a fact? > > Want to try answering the questions I asked you back on the[3rd page](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21993205&postcount=145) of this thread? Third time’s the charm, they say. I don’t see that he answered; am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/462 "2019-12-05T19:51:26Z")
> [@margin](#): > > I don’t see that he answered; am I missing something? His last activity was today at 1:24pm. But not in this thread. I hope you’ve not been holding your breath. Seems highly unlikely the cowardly hypocrite will respond. Even if summoned again. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/463 "2019-12-05T23:51:37Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Magiver, you’re a fucking moron. Possibly a dangerous moron. You’re clearly filled with hate. Hate is what drives people to harass others without provocation. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/464 "2019-12-06T00:01:15Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > So, more like a pistol whipping, then? A pistol whipping would cause harm. There seems to be disconnect between the fantasy people hold in this thread that the driver ran him over. Didn’t happen. Not only did it not happen but he pulled back to the curb. Stick guy then went on to strike the car in what clearly sounded like something that would damage the vehicle. Big surprise the driver reacted as he did. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/465 "2019-12-06T00:58:47Z")
I’d say stickman’s dress was more of a black and royal blue than a white and gold. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/466 "2019-12-06T15:43:37Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > A pistol whipping would cause harm. There seems to be disconnect between the fantasy people hold in this thread that the driver ran him over. Didn’t happen. Not only did it not happen but he pulled back to the curb. Dude, the pedestrian had to lift himself up on the hood. Had they lost their footing, or had their hands slipped on the hood, they would absolutely have been run over. The driver didn’t limit himself to putting bumper against flesh and inching forward to get the message across. They gunned it and pushed the guy a good 15 meters, at some speed. That’s dangerous and reckless, and just because an accident didn’t happen in this specific case doesn’t mean it’s a harmless act generally speaking. Once more with feeling : if I shoot at you and miss, that’s still harm intended. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/467 "2019-12-06T23:00:18Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > I’d say stickman’s dress was more of a black and royal blue than a white and gold. … and he kept saying “yanni” ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/468 "2019-12-06T23:03:56Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > You’re clearly filled with hate. Hate is what drives people to harass others without provocation. Being called a fucking moron is a bit better than getting damn near run over and then getting an ass kicking. Toughen up some if you wanna side with the SUPPOSED “tough guy” who beat up a SUPPOSED BUT NOT EXACTLY “Antifa” guy. — by the way, that whole “he was Antifa” argument turned out to be fake. But then it seems SOME folks like using their car as a weapon these days - or at least they like keeping it open as an option. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/469 "2019-12-07T00:02:16Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Being called a fucking moron is a bit better than getting damn near run over and then getting an ass kicking. Except he wasn’t damn near run over. the driver pulled out slowly and away from the curb and then stopped. Stick man only needed to step back from whatever verbal confrontation they had. That’s it. > [@SteveG1](#): > > Toughen up some if you wanna side with the SUPPOSED “tough guy” who beat up a SUPPOSED BUT NOT EXACTLY “Antifa” guy. — by the way, that whole “he was Antifa” argument turned out to be fake. By the way, didn’t make the claim, doesn’t matter, don’t care. > [@SteveG1](#): > > But then it seems SOME folks like using their car as a weapon these days - or at least they like keeping it open as an option. If the driver was using it as a weapon then stick man would be thinner. As it is, he was not hurt until he continued the confrontation. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/470 "2019-12-07T14:14:17Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > If the driver was using it as a weapon then stick man would be thinner. As it is, he was not hurt until he continued the confrontation. If I threaten you with a baseball bat, perhaps stick it in your ribs and give you a good shove, but don’t beat you senseless with it… have I assaulted you or have I stopped short of doing so? ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/471 "2019-12-07T17:52:45Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > If I threaten you with a baseball bat, perhaps stick it in your ribs and give you a good shove, but don’t beat you senseless with it… have I assaulted you or have I stopped short of doing so? You are disregarding the first part of the scenario. Stick man had already confronted the driver he was blocking. He then advanced on the car continuing the confrontation. To make a comparison a masked person would have had to block my movement and then continue to do so after after a verbal confrontation to the point he advances on on me with a stick. If I push that person out of the way with a gun in my hand I have not injured him with the gun. If he then continues the confrontation with a weapon and I beat the tar out him without shooting him then not only did I not use the gun as a weapon but the injuries to the person are a result for his continued confrontation. You do whatever you think is best with masked people who block your passage and then continue the confrontation with a weapon in hand. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/472 "2019-12-07T17:59:37Z")
This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/473 "2019-12-07T19:29:31Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. For. The. Win! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/474 "2019-12-07T20:44:56Z")
My god, it must be a horrible existence to be a conservative. Everyone’s a threat and must be met with a loaded gun or a weaponized vehicle unless proven innocuous. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/475 "2019-12-07T20:51:19Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > You are disregarding the first part of the scenario. Stick man had already confronted the driver he was blocking. He then advanced on the car continuing the confrontation. Uh huh. Why, he could even have smudged the paint job. Clearly he needed to die. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/476 "2019-12-07T21:39:10Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > You are disregarding the first part of the scenario. Stick man had already confronted the driver he was blocking. He then advanced on the car continuing the confrontation. You frighten easy. > [@Magiver](#): > > You do whatever you think is best with masked people who block your passage and then continue the confrontation with a weapon in hand. Halloween must be a nightmare scenario for you. Masked people on you street, knowing where you live, knocking on your door. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/477 "2019-12-07T21:41:20Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Halloween must be a nightmare scenario for you. Masked people on you street, knowing where you live, knocking on your door. :rolleyes: Don’t forget extortion. “That’s a nice window you have there. It would be a shame if some soap got on it.” ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/478 "2019-12-07T22:07:35Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Halloween must be a nightmare scenario for you. Masked people on you street, knowing where you live, knocking on your door. :rolleyes: Yes, a masked man blocking traffic with a weapon who continues to confront someone is somehow the same as children on Halloween. Good analogy. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/479 "2019-12-07T22:24:29Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > My god, it must be a horrible existence to be a conservative. Everyone’s a threat and must be met with a loaded gun or a weaponized vehicle unless proven innocuous. If the driver had weaponized his vehicle you’d have a point. The only person weaponizing anything was stick man. The driver just wanted to continue on his way. He did so in a manner that allowed stick man to walk away. But no, stick man continued to walk toward the car. This is not what a rational person does. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/480 "2019-12-07T22:31:37Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Uh huh. Why, he could even have smudged the paint job. Clearly he needed to die. Actually he could have busted the window out and injured the driver having already demonstrated the use of the stick. I’m not sure why you think he needed to die because nobody suggested that nor did the driver harm him prior to the door strike. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927.md?page=25)