# This has to stop: extreme actions at political gathering **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 24, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927 "2019-11-24T19:15:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/501 "2019-12-08T15:54:10Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Nobody was injured by the stick. However, the truck was damaged using the stick which demonstrates it’s use as a weapon. OBJECTION! Assumes facts, as far as I’m aware, not in evidence. CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/502 "2019-12-08T16:02:03Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > According to some folks on this board, vehicles are deadlier weapons than guns. According to you, sticks are deadlier weapos than vehicles. Does that mean that sticks are deadlier than guns, or is this like rack, scissors, paper? And I missed the edit deadline. I didn’t put any value on which is more deadly. There is a massive disconnect between the concept that a car CAN be a weapon vs IF it’s being used as a weapon. In this case it was not. The stick became a weapon when he struck the vehicle with it. Based on the sound on the video he hit it robustly. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/503 "2019-12-08T16:07:02Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > OBJECTION! Assumes facts, as far as I’m aware, not in evidence. > > CMC fnord! we will have to disagree on this. In the video the impact was quit audible and it didn’t appear to be done with love. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/504 "2019-12-08T16:08:24Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > The driver did a poor job of trying run the protestor down. You are the reason Individual-ONE says that we have to flush 10 to 15 times, you entitled sack of effluent. Your number one job as a driver is not to run into stuff. Doing it on purpose is a massive failure of your ability to understand what you are not supposed to run into. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/505 "2019-12-08T16:17:56Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > You are the reason Individual-ONE says that we have to flush 10 to 15 times, you entitled sack of effluent. Your number one job as a driver is not to run into stuff. Doing it on purpose is a massive failure of your ability to understand what you are not supposed to run into. I have no idea what your rant is about. I would say the entitled person in the video is the one who continues to block the driver. All the driver wanted to do is leave and go about his business. Stickman’s business was to stop the driver against his will. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/506 "2019-12-08T16:29:47Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > And I missed the edit deadline. \*\*I didn’t put any value on which is more deadly. \*\* Bolding mine BECAUSE ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING YOU FUCKING MORON. > [@](#): > > There is a massive disconnect between the concept that a car CAN be a weapon vs IF it’s being used as a weapon. > > In this case it was not. The stick became a weapon when he struck the vehicle with it. Based on the sound on the video he hit it robustly. This? This right here? THIS is why there is no trusting or believing conservatives. Ever. This asshole is lying to us and/or himself if he expects us to respect or believe the notion that his lying ass can’t tell the fucking difference between a STICK AND A CAR. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/507 "2019-12-08T16:34:42Z")
Buut, the stick made a loud noise! CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/508 "2019-12-08T16:48:19Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > … or is this like rack, scissors, paper? **Magiver** ’s tortured reasoning makes this thread seem very much like the “rack”. > [@magiver](#): > > Yes, a masked man blocking traffic with a weapon who continues to confront someone is somehow the same as children on Halloween. Good analogy. That wasn’t an “analogy”, it was me making fun of you. If it’s not too much to ask, please do try to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/509 "2019-12-08T17:03:07Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > You are the reason Individual-ONE says that we have to flush 10 to 15 times, you entitled sack of effluent. Your number one job as a driver is not to run into stuff. Doing it on purpose is a massive failure of your ability to understand what you are not supposed to run into. Yes yes yes ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/510 "2019-12-08T17:05:48Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It would be nice if you would shove your vivid imagination up your ass and discuss what actually happened. Don’t hold your breath. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/511 "2019-12-08T17:53:39Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Forgive me if I missed it, but do we know when, where, and involving whom this horrendous vehicle vs stick encounter occurred? Nope. For all we know it was somewhere in Poland (since it was tweeted by a Polish nazi, although he himself might have gotten it from somewhere else). ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/512 "2019-12-08T19:13:43Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Yes, vehicles can be used effectively as weapons. But until they’re used as weapons they’re vehicles. The same goes for the stick. It’s just a stick until you start hitting things with it. Then it becomes a weapon. It’s just a vehicle until you start hitting people with it. Then it becomes a weapon. No one was injured by the stick. The only person causing injury was the asshole in the vehicle. Full stop. The asshole in the vehicle was the person that escalated the situation from words to physical action, then escalated in kind. Please continue to defend assholes. It makes it that much more obvious who you are. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/513 "2019-12-08T19:29:47Z")
I simply cannot understand why the FBI doesn’t swoop down on the leaders of antifas and slam 'em up. Hell, they make it look like any itchy butt can just put on a mask and declare himself antifas. Which they wouldn’t… unless the FBI is _in on it_! Of course! The whole Russia thing, Comey, Mueller, it all\* fits\*, the picture comes into focus! Wait. No, that’s stupid. Forget it. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/514 "2019-12-08T19:30:40Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Nope. For all we know it was somewhere in Poland (since it was tweeted by a Polish nazi, although he himself might have gotten it from somewhere else). A Polish…\*Nazi? \* ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/515 "2019-12-08T19:39:47Z")
> [@margin](#): > > A Polish…\*Nazi? \* They have 'em everywhere. Even here in the US. Ya know, “very fine people”, who run people over in cars, like in Charlottesville. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/516 "2019-12-08T19:54:54Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I have no idea what your rant is about. Then you need to be stripped of your right to operate a motor vehicle, because you seem to be dangerously stupid about how it is done. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/517 "2019-12-08T20:02:28Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Nope. For all we know it was somewhere in Poland (since it was tweeted by a Polish nazi, although he himself might have gotten it from somewhere else). The audio had standard American accented English, though. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/518 "2019-12-08T21:28:51Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > The audio had standard American accented English, though. As did “Revenge of the Drunken Master” when I watched it on _El Rey Network_. has anyone provided context for that video yet? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/519 "2019-12-08T22:47:33Z")
> [@margin](#): > > A Polish…\*Nazi? \* Learn history they said. It won’t lead to existential despair and repeated forehead injuries they said. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927/520 "2019-12-08T22:49:33Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > The audio had standard American accented English, though. Oh I hadn’t noticed there was audio. Driver seems like a nice guy. Civil. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-has-to-stop-extreme-actions-at-political-gathering/843927.md?page=27)