Frankly, my “not the whole story” sense is tingling here.
-FrL-
Frankly, my “not the whole story” sense is tingling here.
-FrL-
That may be so, but we don’t yet know just how impatient or inflexible the ER staff was with Ms. Rodriguez.
And note that too much patience and flexibility with one patient may jeopardize other patients.
Can you flesh this out a little? What happened afterwards? Did you call the police?
You know, not that it probably matters to anyone but me, I’d like to apologize for my only response to this thread. Yes, I’m still pissed off as all get out (probably due to my better half always having worked at a hospital – some small, cramped, busy and serving indigent patients – and this sort of thing would never have been tolerated in any of his former places of employment) and I think the behavior all around was reprehensible, despite any excuses that can be made. However, that doesn’t matter. I overreacted based on my emotions and let my temper get the best of me. Therefore, I undoubtedly sounded/came across as (more) insane (than I am due to my “normal” psychological reasons). So I’m sorry guys, that was way over the line. Now I’ll just go back into my shell and hide.
Passing out and getting attacked by random passers-by is the 3rd leading cause of injury in the US.
Passing out and getting attacked by wildlife is number 2.
This is a nicer way of saying what I was thinking. Oh, those naughty security guards! Always randomly beating up unconscious pregnant women! You talk to them and talk to them, but they never learn.
Count me in on the side that says the 911 operator guy was a complete dick, but that there was nothing he could realistically do.
“It’s not an emergency!”
“Yes it is! She’s dying!”
“NO IT’S NOT!”
when a woman is dying on the floor of a hospital waiting room. Fuck you, 911 operator. Even though you couldn’t have helped, you were still an asshole about it.
From what I understand, that hospital was already in some serious trouble. I feel bad for the people in the area if it gets shut down, but it sounds like the place had been awful for a long time to me.
Hey, first we get them to lay off the dead horses then we move to unconscious pregnant people(I don’t want to be sexist here).
Sorry, lee, but I don’t think you’re telling the whole story, either. I think you’re leaving out your part in the melee. Do you not realize how your story sounds? “I passed out and was attacked by security guards.” Just lying there, all pregnant and dying, and they decided to beat you, eh?
When I came to, someone was trying to lift me off the ground by tugging on my wrists. It felt like they were going to pull my arms out of their sockets. I tried to pull my arms out of their grasp and that is when the first guard jumped me. From there on, I was trying to get away and I was attacked on all sides by several guards and they did not stop until KellyM got them to back off. I have no idea if they could tell I was pregnant or just saw me as fat. They probably perceived me as some kind of druggie/drug seeker as I passed out and was disoriented.
I read this as:
They saw me faint and one of them tried to help me up. I freaked out on him, and another guard had to restrain me so that I didn’t hurt the first guard or myself. I like to call it a beating, tho.
You sure you didn’t lead them on an extra long car chase while high on PCP? 'Cause that I’d buy.
I agree with you, and I NEVER said anyone who is faking should be given priority over anyone with a more serious condition. I think several people are getting defensive and reading much more into what I wrote. I guess that’s understandable; I have no doubt it’s a very difficult job, and ER workers probably get a lot of flak. But please don’t read more into what I wrote than what is actually there.
One has to take every situation seriously, because one never knows if the person who looks like a faker might be about to die. That is not to say one doesn’t have to prioritize; I never said nor implied such a thing.
Sure, but no cop where I work is going to take an actively vomiting pt out of the hospital that HASN’T been medically cleared to book, and I’ll bet your brother hasn’t either.
To be sure you didn’t say it, but it may end up being the practical effect of the policy you described earlier: "Unless you know for a fact that’s what they’re doing, you ought to err on the side of caution. "
What does “jumped you” mean? And why were you trying to get away? And what do you mean by “attacked”? Attached how?
This still doesn’t make much sense, except that now it seems like someone was trying to help you and you didn’t like it.
No, he usually gets them outside the Oakland Coleseum.
I was just saying that vomiting isn’t an automatic show stopper. Hell, with that hospital they may have cleared her for all we know.
Like I said, I have no doubt it’s a difficult job - maybe not for everybody.
Even Jesus Himself might have a hard time following the following 2 rules at the same time:
Possible fakers should be treated as legitimate patients with serious conditions until it is known for a fact that they are faking.
Fakers should never get priority over legitimate patients.
Because you can’t know for a fact that somebody is faking until they have been examined by the doctor. And even then, they might come back a few hours later with more complaints.
What’s your point?