# This is Barry Goldwater?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 3, 2000, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-barry-goldwater/28059 "2000-08-03T23:16:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Scribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scribe)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2000, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-barry-goldwater/28059/21 "2000-08-05T07:36:22Z")

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> _Originally posted by Scribe \*  
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> Goldwater might have had a better run in 1964 if Kennedy had lived.  
> FWIW, I have a 1963 book (I think it’s The Case for Goldwater…) which argues for his winnability. The electoral plan outlined was to carry the West, Midwest, and parts of the South and squeak through with about 280-300 electoral votes. The eastern seabord and the industrial northeast was to be written off._\*

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FWIW, If you're particularly curious about this book, it's named The Winning Side by Ralph de Toledano. The paperback edition, revised post-Dallas, opines that the same political factors would also doom LBJ, which may doom his thesis.
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