# This is beyond insane (proposed Ugandan bill regarding homosexuals)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 25, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-beyond-insane-proposed-ugandan-bill-regarding-homosexuals/518899 "2009-11-25T13:48:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-beyond-insane-proposed-ugandan-bill-regarding-homosexuals/518899/61 "2009-12-11T00:18:09Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> Even [Exodus International](http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=31715) condemns the bill. Have any American groups, even American anti-gay groups, come out in favor of it?

I wouldn’t say they _condemn_ the bill.

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> The four cosigners then said they wanted to humbly share their concerns regarding the anti-homosexuality bill.

In any case, they’re apparently only opposed to the bill because it will make it really hard to cure teh gay:

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> “Please consider the influence this law will have upon those who may seek help in dealing with this difficult issue as well as church and ministry leaders committed to demonstrating the compassion of Christ to all,” the letter concluded. “We are praying for you, for this matter and for the people of Uganda.”

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-beyond-insane-proposed-ugandan-bill-regarding-homosexuals/518899/62 "2009-12-11T02:55:11Z")

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Oh boy, the Vatican (note: Catholicism, at 41.9% is the largest religion in Uganda) finally gets around to [making a general statement](http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/10/17738) in opposition to “all forms of violence and unjust discrimination against homosexual persons”.

Just recently, the Catholic Archdiocese of Portland, Maine [funneled $378,445.88 (PDF file)](http://www.mainecampaignfinance.com/netCrystalReports/PACCombinedReport.aspx?EntityType=BQC&Params=74165;direct;YYYYYYYYYYY) to keep gay couples in Maine from marrying. I’m no Bible scholar, but I don’t recall those being Jesus’s priorities.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-beyond-insane-proposed-ugandan-bill-regarding-homosexuals/518899/63 "2009-12-11T03:47:22Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> You might want to check out the work of Marija Gimbutas who was an archaeologist specializing in Europe from the neolithic age until the bronze age. He theory was the prior to the Kurgen invasion Europe was largely egalitarian, homosexuals were revered, and that these societies were gynocentric. The Kurgens were a group of people that invaded from the east, and, according to Gimbutas, were responsible for bringing the patriarchy to Europe.

Ironically I saw a PBS special that used the apparently high-status of the female Kurgan burials (as well as their burial with instruments of war) to claim that they were a culture of warrior women!

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-beyond-insane-proposed-ugandan-bill-regarding-homosexuals/518899/64 "2009-12-11T08:51:41Z")

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If the death penalty is only for “intentional or willful transmission of the virus that causes AIDS” as this article reports: [Uganda considers HIV death penalty](http://www.upi.com/Top_News/International/2009/12/07/Uganda-considers-HIV-death-penalty/UPI-64901260230267/) – then it is a little harsh but quite within reach of the defensible. Especially in a country where AIDS probably still equals a death sentence.

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