# this is for all racists

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 7, 2013, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267 "2013-03-07T06:23:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![thanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thanatic)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/1 "2013-03-07T06:23:24Z")

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Abdesselam Jelloul is the man with highest IQ score in the world. He scored 198 in IQ test held in 2012. He holds the record to have highest score in Advance IQ test. The test included 13 different dimensions of intelligence including analytical, linguistics, spiritual, philosophical and 9 others.  
Abdesselam Jelloul sounds like he could be a black man…

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**Author:** ![yorick73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/b5a626/32.png) [@yorick73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yorick73)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/2 "2013-03-07T06:44:09Z")

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Sounds middle eastern to me…not to be racist 🙂

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/3 "2013-03-07T07:25:53Z")

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It’s an Arabic name. It _could_ belong to a ‘black’ guy, say from Eritrea or Somalia.

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**Author:** ![thanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thanatic)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/4 "2013-03-07T07:29:15Z")

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> [@Peremensoe](#):
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> It’s an Arabic name. It _could_ belong to a ‘black’ guy, say from Eritrea or Somalia.

whats more likely, hes from morocco? or something liek that

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/5 "2013-03-07T07:35:10Z")

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There do seem to be a bunch of Jellouls around Morocco.

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**Author:** ![thanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thanatic)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/6 "2013-03-07T08:29:41Z")

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what are the chances of him being black

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/7 "2013-03-07T09:14:44Z")

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spiritual intelligence?

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/8 "2013-03-07T10:55:19Z")

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IQ can’t be measured anywhere near as high as 198, so someone’s fallen for a scam. Which doesn’t demonstrate particularly high intelligence, regardless of melanin content.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/9 "2013-03-07T10:56:01Z")

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Where does this claim about someone’s I.Q. come from? Here are three websites I’ve found which make this claim:

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> **[Smartest Person World Record](http://mostextreme.org/smartest_person.php)**
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> This page contains information about the smartest person in the world ever establishing a world record related to body and brain, our most extreme on the list of all time.

[http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-930711](http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-930711)

And these are the most coherent of the websites I’ve found which mention this, and one of them says explicitly that the score isn’t reliable. Who is this guy and where does he live? Who gave him the I.Q. test? Why should we think the people who tested him know what they’re doing?

A good rule of thumb is that any claim of an I.Q. over 160 is probably nonsense. Ordinary I.Q. tests can’t measure any higher than that. There are some odd tests that claim to be able to measure higher I.Q.'s, but their usefulness is disputed.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/10 "2013-03-07T11:09:19Z")

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Oh, **thanatic** , it’s not that anyone here cares that a man who isn’t melanin deprived may be smart, it is that none of us are impressed by outrageously high IQ test scores.

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**Author:** ![Virgil\_Tibbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Virgil\_Tibbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Virgil_Tibbs)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/11 "2013-03-07T11:40:54Z")

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Bizarre OP. And what is “spiritual intelligence”?

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**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/12 "2013-03-07T11:47:10Z")

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> [@Virgil\_Tibbs](#):
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> Bizarre OP. And what is “spiritual intelligence”?

I think Dr. Strange has that.

It’s probably obvious, but the OP’s first paragraph is directly lifted from at least 2 Web sites.

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**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/13 "2013-03-07T12:35:00Z")

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I don’t mean to give racists any arguments, but here’s another problem: just because the smartest (most intelligent, whatever) man in the world is black doesn’t mean anything for black people in general. If you were to claim (and you would be very, very wrong) that black people are less intelligent than white people, a single outlier one way or another does not disprove that argument.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/14 "2013-03-07T16:06:26Z")

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I thought the smartest man in the world looked like [this](http://www.nouilles.info/sdpix/31.html).

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/15 "2013-03-07T16:15:15Z")

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[There is one person named Abdesselam Jelloul in the United States](http://www.whitepages.com/name/Abdesselam-Jelloul), and he lives in San Antonio, Texas.

Note, people, this is the \*White \*Pages!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/16 "2013-03-07T16:22:35Z")

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> [@thanatic](#):
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> Abdesselam Jelloul is the man with highest IQ score in the world. He scored 198 in IQ test held in 2012. He holds the record to have highest score in Advance IQ test. The test included 13 different dimensions of intelligence including analytical, linguistics, spiritual, philosophical and 9 others.  
> Abdesselam Jelloul sounds like he could be a black man…

Cite, please.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/17 "2013-03-07T16:26:03Z")

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Actually it sounds more Southeast Asian.

It must be 'nam, cause Jelloul don’t shake like that.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/18 "2013-03-07T16:30:56Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> IQ can’t be measured anywhere near as high as 198, so someone’s fallen for a scam.

Or someone made up an IQ test that may not mean anything. They’re called Advance IQ and my assumption is that they’re full of shit.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/19 "2013-03-07T16:34:42Z")

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Well, I for one think that the whole “racism” thing has finally been defeated, once and for all. I look forward to our brave new future, free of prejudice and full of harmony for all mankind.

Except the fucking Dutch.

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**Author:** ![thanatic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@thanatic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thanatic)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-all-racists/652267/20 "2013-03-07T16:49:17Z")

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so do you guys call BS on this test…

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