this is for all racists

[Jackmannii]

Nevermind, made this brilliant observation earlier.

[Hector_St_Clare]

@Velocity

If the man with the highest IQ in the world were white, what would that say about white people?
If the man with the highest IQ in the world were Asian, what would that say about Asian people?
If the man with the highest IQ in the world were Arab, what would that say about Arab people?
My point is, a 1-person statistical sample size is just that; a 1-person statistical sample.

Right. The truth or falsity of the statement “Women are less likely to be strong national leaders than men” isn’t affected by pointing at examples like Queen Elizabeth I or Indira Gandhi, because it’s a statement about averages, not individuals.

[Hector_St_Clare]

@iiandyiiii

we know virtually nothing about which genes are responsible for intelligence, much less their prevalence in various populations.

That’s not quite true, we’ve identified some proteins that affect IQ, like this one:

Klotho (biology)

@iiandyiiii

Historically, issues of culture and society have been the explanation for unusual disparities in outcomes like IQ test scores – the Irish, for example, were about a standard deviation below most of the rest of Europe a hundred years ago – and now they’re the same. Nothing changed in Irish DNA.

That’s not necessarily true, although it might be. Ireland traditionally had a very large fraction of its population emigrate, which might well have included the most intelligent people, which in turn would mean that the people left at home would be a lower-IQ pool (due to their genetics). I don’t know exactly when the mass migration flow stopped, but if it ended around the 1970s or so, and if emigration selected for the smartest people, then you’d expect to see the population starting to gain in IQ starting in the 1980s (which is exactly what we do see).

I suspect a good part of why Ireland is on par with Europe today have to do with nutrition, urbanization, etc., but it’s not impossible that there might be changes in the gene pool because the mass emigration flow slowed down.

[Count_Blucher]

@Ethilrist

So, he’s a black muslim zombie?

… They call him “Melanin” Jelloul…

[iiandyiiii]

@Hector_St_Clare

That’s not quite true, we’ve identified some proteins that affect IQ, like this one:

Klotho (biology) - Wikipedia

Your link didn’t work, but this one doesn’t say anything at all about intelligence. This article describes a correlation (though it didn’t use actual IQ tests), though it says nothing about the prevalence of the gene in various populations.

That’s not necessarily true, although it might be. Ireland traditionally had a very large fraction of its population emigrate, which might well have included the most intelligent people, which in turn would mean that the people left at home would be a lower-IQ pool (due to their genetics). I don’t know exactly when the mass migration flow stopped, but if it ended around the 1970s or so, and if emigration selected for the smartest people, then you’d expect to see the population starting to gain in IQ starting in the 1980s (which is exactly what we do see).

I suspect a good part of why Ireland is on par with Europe today have to do with nutrition, urbanization, etc., but it’s not impossible that there might be changes in the gene pool because the mass emigration flow slowed down.

This is a fine hypothesis, but that’s all it is.

[Asimovian]

@Smeghead

(rest of word salad snipped)

Translation and summary: “Hi! I’m the latest in the long, long unending string of so-called “scientific” racists here to convince you all that black people are born stupid and are our genetic inferiors! Thanks for providing me a welcoming home!”

Personal insults aren’t allowed outside of the Pit; don’t do this again.

Further, some of the new posts are addressed to people who have long ago ceased to participate in the thread. If there are folks here who want to continue this discussion, feel free to start anew. I’m going to close this.