# This is for PETA, and all of their like-minded fellows **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 29, 2007, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034 "2007-04-29T06:31:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/41 "2007-04-30T20:54:47Z")
[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach] Oh, bullshit. It made perfect sense, if a little histrionic, and as far as I could tell, was perfectly acceptable by Pit standards (although I guess the Keepers of Pit Perfection prefer bold, italics, or underlining instead of caps for emphasis. I can dig it). Go ahead and explain to me each of those errors of composition. Sure, the guy’s gonna get stomped on, but the [sic] thing, yeah, let’s have an explanation for that. [/QUOTE] To wit: Those people don’t realize that the ONLY way we can possibly cure aids AIDS[sic], cancer, diabetes, heart disease, blindness, etc, etc.,[sic] is by giving animals experimental medicine, watch watching[sic] them as they probably suffer and die, then write writing[sic] down the problems, and keep [sic] trying continuing to try. Just for starters. Fuckwit. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/42 "2007-04-30T21:03:30Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] Isn’t most insulin from pigs, too? [/QUOTE] And Ingrid Newkirk, co-founder and president of PETA, is reportedly diabetic. [Robot Devil] How ironic! [/RD] ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/43 "2007-04-30T21:06:57Z")
[QUOTE=Sean Factotum] And Ingrid Newkirk, co-founder and president of PETA, is reportedly diabetic. [Robot Devil] How ironic! [/RD] [/QUOTE] [Not to mention hypocritical](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8520647&postcount=33). AFAIK, she’s not the only one among PETA’s top brass on insulin, either. ---
**Author:** ![BluePitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BluePitbull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BluePitbull)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/44 "2007-04-30T21:10:59Z")
[QUOTE=Sean Factotum] And Ingrid Newkirk, co-founder and president of PETA, is reportedly diabetic. [Robot Devil] How ironic! [/RD] [/QUOTE] Isn’t most insulin used by diabetics today, synthetic? That wouldn’t be hypocritical, right? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/45 "2007-04-30T21:30:11Z")
[QUOTE=BluePitbull] Isn’t most insulin used by diabetics today, synthetic? That wouldn’t be hypocritical, right? [/QUOTE] Insulin as we know it wouldn’t even exist if it weren’t for German scientists experimenting on dogs two centuries ago. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/46 "2007-04-30T21:44:40Z")
_One_ century ago, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/47 "2007-05-01T00:13:40Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] one choice example of his lame bullshit was his claiming to be vegan and then eating eggs. “I’m an ovo-vegan.” [/QUOTE] I kinda like that. I’m going to start describing myself as a “carnovolactic vegan”. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/48 "2007-05-01T00:25:48Z")
[QUOTE=lissener] **Mujojo** , what were \*you \* designed for? [/QUOTE] To drop a troll turd in the Pit, and then run away, never showing his face again. ---
**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/49 "2007-05-01T00:26:57Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] To wit: Those people don’t realize that the ONLY way we can possibly cure aids AIDS[sic], cancer, diabetes, heart disease, blindness, etc, etc.,[sic] is by giving animals experimental medicine, watch watching[sic] them as they probably suffer and die, then write writing[sic] down the problems, and keep [sic] trying continuing to try. Just for starters. Fuckwit. [/QUOTE] I second Arizona Tech. For the sake of argument, the english wasn’t perfect, but a sentence in a quote is obviously all [sic] anyways, and furthermore, it was not a series of independent errors, but a consistent sentence structure (all the same tense, even if it was technically wrong) that a lot of people seem to use. I parse the sentence just fine with the consistent tensing, even if it isn’t technically correct. The pedantic use of [sic] is a cause for :rolleyes:, especially when the argument fails on its own merits. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/50 "2007-05-01T00:57:49Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] To wit: Those people don’t realize that the ONLY way we can possibly cure aids AIDS[sic], cancer, diabetes, heart disease, blindness, etc, etc.,[sic] is by giving animals experimental medicine, watch watching[sic] them as they probably suffer and die, then write writing[sic] down the problems, and keep [sic] trying continuing to try. Just for starters. Fuckwit. [/QUOTE] Damn, look who found a blue pencil. :dubious: Too bad the job of “annoying corrector of minor errors” isn’t open, you’d be a cinch. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/51 "2007-05-01T01:00:37Z")
[QUOTE=enigm4tic] I second Arizona Tech. For the sake of argument, the english wasn’t perfect, but a sentence in a quote is obviously all [sic] anyways, and furthermore, it was not a series of independent errors, but a consistent sentence structure (all the same tense, even if it was technically wrong) that a lot of people seem to use. I parse the sentence just fine with the consistent tensing, even if it isn’t technically correct. The pedantic use of [sic] is a cause for :rolleyes:, especially when the argument fails on its own merits. [/QUOTE] The point about using [sic] in a quote I won’t argue with, since I tend to agree (note: I wasn’t the one who did it). But the accusation that those [sic]s weren’t pointing out errors of composition is just wrong, and that I’m not going to let slide. All we have on this board is the written text, and it behooves every participant to write as clearly and correctly as possible in order to convey the intended meaning. Though it would appear it’s all wasted effort in this case since our troll-turd depositor seems to have departed. Hey, **DrDeth** , if you like wading through sloppy mangled semicoherent writing, have at it. I certainly wouldn’t deny you the pleasures of cherishing ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/52 "2007-05-01T01:05:37Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Hey, **DrDeth** , if you like wading through sloppy mangled semicoherent writing, have at it. . [/QUOTE] I don’t. But your “(sic)s” didn’t make it any easier to read. Next time, just call him a semi-illiterate fuckwit and I am with you. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/53 "2007-05-01T01:10:52Z")
[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher] Insulin as we know it wouldn’t even exist if it weren’t for German scientists experimenting on dogs two centuries ago. [/QUOTE] I had a beautiful young lady work for me many many years ago. Sweet, funny, and did I mention drop dead gorgeous. The absolute perfect girl next door if you had excellent taste is picking a house. Damn good employee to boot. She was severely diabetic. Injected insulin several times a day. Every time I hear of PETA and no animal testing I think of her. I think of how without the animal testing that lead to insulin she would be dead long before I met her. I love my animals, I love my dog, but if it was a choice of my dog’s health and hers, it is no contest. I would kill my dog with my own two hands to save her life. ---
**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/54 "2007-05-01T01:13:03Z")
ok ok, you’re right, I did error in the way I called out **ITR** , since I naturally assumed that the [sics] were attempting to refer to supposed typos/actual errors of writing. And I admit, they are, I suppose, errors in grammar/composition. But, as I stated, I still firmly maintain that the writing, such as it was, was perfectly clear enough, especially since the errors were consistent. _shrug_, dead issue I suppose, no argument here, move along folks. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/55 "2007-05-01T01:16:56Z")
[QUOTE=DrDeth] I don’t. But your “(sic)s” didn’t make it any easier to read. Next time, just call him a semi-illiterate fuckwit and I am with you. 😛 [/QUOTE] As I pointed out in my post immediately preceding this post by you, those WERE NOT MY [SIC] INSERTIONS. **NOT MINE**. They were done by **ITR champion** , not me, in a long multi-quoting response to the OP. I simply answered this post: > [@enigm4tic](#): > > ITR is there any reason why you used [sic] 9 times when none of things appear to be typos? No, they weren’t typos. They _were_ compositional errors. Okay? All clear now? On preview: No harm, no foul, **enigm4tic**. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/56 "2007-05-01T01:29:24Z")
Too late to edit into the preceding post: I’m a proofreader by vocation, a writer by avocation, and driven to varying degrees of frothing fury by crappy composition. :mad: 😉 ---
**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/57 "2007-05-01T02:57:40Z")
[QUOTE=Bites When Provoked] Veal. Not veil. [/QUOTE] When my wife and I got married we didn’t have much money. We had to make do with a flank steak. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/58 "2007-05-01T03:00:48Z")
[QUOTE=newcrasher] When my wife and I got married we didn’t have much money. We had to make do with a flank steak. [/QUOTE] You must have taken a lot of ribbing about that. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/59 "2007-05-01T03:32:49Z")
No not ribs, flank steak Sheez! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2007, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-for-peta-and-all-of-their-like-minded-fellows/402034/60 "2007-05-01T03:44:44Z")
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