# This is not a Regards, Shodan pitting **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 26, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548 "2008-11-26T13:53:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/121 "2008-11-27T21:04:14Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Just like you did with Bush. Eh? Eh? Matter of fact, yes. To my ever-lasting shame, I was a passionate supporter of his after 9/11. For maybe a year, I wanted to give him anything he asked for as long as he was searching, as he claimed, for Bin Ladin. I suspect that’s the reason I came to hate him so much, when I realized that he was using my passionate support (and that of many, many other Democrats) to justify his own evil, twisted ambitions, resulting in my country’s unending global disgrace. But for a few months there, you couldn’t find a more loyal Bush-supporter than I was. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/122 "2008-11-27T21:21:12Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Okay, let’s review: in 15 -odd hours of searching… Took five minutes. > [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > But piling up a heap of posts that mention Obama’s name without calling him a terrorist Muslim isn’t exactly what I asked for… Given that I’ve never made even the slightest comment calling him a Muslim terrorist, I’m wondering why the notion would occur to you? > [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > “I’d really like to see what you consider to be your most generous, least critical post about Obama.” As you’ve shown with each of my attempts to show you what you’d ‘like to see’, it would be a total waste of time. You would misrepresent what I’d said, you’d leap to ficticious conclusions, you’d move the goalposts, and you’d equivocate like a motherfuck. 😃 > [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Here’s the most recent of **SA’**'s “pro-Obama” posts, for those of you who won’t bother opening any of them:… Translation: ‘Since I’m afraid **SA** might come off looking better than I thought if you read his cites, I’m gonna pick out the most recent one (as if that made any difference) and misconstrue it so that passing readers will be more favorably inclined to my impotent argument.’ > [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > …followed by one in which **SA** is “trying to keep a positive attitude about Obama” (as opposed to what? Threatening to assassinate him ASAP? No, dumbass. (And you wonder why I treat certain posters around here with disrespect :rolleyes:.) Why would you even think such a thing? I’ll tell you why. You don’t! You know perfectly well that I meant I’m hoping he’ll be less the leftie ideologist and more the man of the people…just like I said in the posts I cited. Now, having said that, I have, as a matter of fact, expressed (and still hold) considerable fear that he may be assassinated. It is my urgent wish and hope that he is not. And now, having said _that_, you really are a detestable dumbass, aren’t you. Can you still be bought out for the princely sum of $500 measly dollars?) > [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > –it would be better if you could actuallly, you know, HAVE a positive attitude as well… Having a positive attitude will depend on his actions. I’m cautiously optimistic, but I’m far from convinced. I don’t see how this is unreasonable. > [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > I’d have to say, all in all, meh. What a surprise. > [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > I had you pegged as deranged enough to be unable to acknowledge even simple truths like those personal ones you did acknowledge… So you were wrong. Again. > [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > If you like, I can supply a list of topics that I, or other Obama-supporters, expressed in posts here that McCain might provide good leadership on. And what, exactly, does that have to do with the price of tea in China? ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/123 "2008-11-27T21:27:33Z")
> [@Peanut\_Gallery](#): > > This is a Do Not Feed The Trolls mini-rant. > > The SDMB sure does love to entertain some trolls. I want to pit all the people who bother to continue this tradition. This isn’t specifically about Regards, Shodan. But he is surely a top contender for Trolling-est Doper, and the subject of today’s DNFTT PSA. I don’t mean to lump all conservative posters in together as trolls, either. There are enough who can express an intelligent opinion to outnumber the trolls. That’s a rare thing, and part of why I love the SDMB. BUT > > [We could use less of this.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10498381&postcount=227) > > This is not debate. This is somebody caught in a trap. \* This is what Regards, Shodan and his breed are all about. Making you waste your time trying to unravel a ball of yarn that they are actively tying more knots into as you work. It is a crack up to watch the first few times. But after a while, you notice that it is a pattern that clogs up thread after thread around here. They aren’t dumb, so you aren’t actually correcting them or enlightening them. It is an intentional routine they perform. > > Imagine the things that could be accomplished with all the time these brilliant minds spend playing semantic games with the Dope’s trolls. You people are better this. > > New Rule: No more wasting time refuting the likes of Regards, Shodan. IGNORE THEM ALL. We can’t change them. They love trolling the SDMB, and have been refining it longer than many of us have been posting. But what we can do is read right by them. They’re a bratty child pulling at your pant-leg during a conversation with another adult. Just give them a pat on their pointy little heads and scoot them along toward the playground. If the poster is Regards, Shodan (we can identify the rest as we go, if it pleases), you can safely assume that you are not going to get Integrity with that post. You are going to get some backward tricksy nonsense dragging back and forth for a page in the middle of an otherwise good thread. > > Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience. > > \*If I really need to break down the stupidity going on there, I can post again later I guess… It seems rather blatant. I agree that ignore them is the best approach. There are several posters that I can’t seem to have a reasonable discussion with. For the most part I ignore their posts or , if they seem to be behaving, I’ll make an attempt at discourse without any real expectations. Nobody is forcing anyone to spend time in a useless discussion that isn’t going anywhere. If I spend too much time beating my head against a wall it’s as much my fault as it is theirs. I try to avoid it. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/124 "2008-11-28T00:27:07Z")
Rather than prolong your agony, I’ll end my participation in this now- tiresome thread (tiresome to keep writing, and certainly tiresome to read) by making a few, perhaps superfluous, closing remarks (after which you can open a whole nother thread, if you like, though I won’t promise to post there, only if there’s any promise of remotely new material to respond to). 1. I hope you realize that you have done exactly what you accuse me of doing in this snip: [QUOTE=you] You would misrepresent what I’d said, you’d leap to ficticious conclusions, you’d move the goalposts, and you’d equivocate like a motherfuck [/QUOTE] when you immediately procede to translate my remark into Starving Artist bullshit, as follows: [QUOTE=you] Translation: ‘Since I’m afraid SA might come off looking better than I thought if you read his cites, I’m gonna pick out the most recent one (as if that made any difference) and misconstrue it so that passing readers will be more favorably inclined to my impotent argument.’ [/QUOTE] Misrepresent? Check–you call it translation. Leap to fictitious conclusions? Check–examining closely one representative passage is somehow unfair to a casual reader? On what planet? Move goalposts? Check–that’s a given with you. Equivocate like a motherfuck? Check–that’s your middle name. No, I simply gave your most recent self-quotation, thinking that would represent fairly your most current position, which I then proceeded to analyze in a pretty objective way. If there’s any part of my analysis, which you characterize as a deliberate misconstruction, that’s faulty, I’d sure like to see you explain what the fault is: [QUOTE=me] So that’s two paragraphs of vigorous Hillary-bashing (to which I say: “GO, SA!”) followed by one in which SA is “trying to keep a positive attitude about Obama” (as opposed to what? Threatening to assassinate him ASAP? The man has been elected President–for the sake of your mental health, you’d damn well better try to keep a positve attitude–it would be better if you could actuallly, you know, HAVE a positive attitude as well,) ending with some out and out bitching about his first two major appointments. [/QUOTE] Did you not include two (of three) paragraphs of Hillary-bashing in what was allegedly a post noting some virtues of Obama? Did you have anything substantial to say about Obama in the final paragraph, other than praising yourself for making the effort to hope he does well and then bashing his first two major appointments? We’re supposed to interpret this as support? Praise? Admiration? Please remember, this is YOU selecting from thousands of posts the one post that expresses your fairness to Obama, and it’s nearly all about Hilary and Obama’s lousy staffing choices. If you’re not actually retarded, you’re assuming all of us must be. 1. And sorry to disappoint again, but I think the Mods will not allow any more bidding to silence members. Should have doubled or tripled \*\*Liberal \*\*'s offer when you had the chance. Now you get the final word. If I may, a request: could we have another meltdown like your previous post, to which a specific rebuttal would be again superfluous? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/125 "2008-11-28T05:18:29Z")
Once again **SA** masterfully punctures the hypocrisies and pretensions of the left! _Mallard Fillmore_, eat your heart out! (Hey, its almost Christmas, and Santa is watching! I’ll never make the “nice” list, but maybe if he checks it twice, I can get to the “naughty” list and off the “shoot on sight” list!) ---
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/126 "2008-11-28T08:06:58Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > This nonsense about how I don’t mean what I say is just crap whats-his-name made up. Regards, **Shodan**! Just popped in to say I don’t consider you a troll. The idea that saying your posts provide “sheer entertainment value” means you don’t really believe what you’re posting is fucking idiotic. Also, watching **prr** lose so badly to **Starving Artist** is sheer entertainment. And that’s a statement I can believe in. I have an idea: I’ll wait until he responds to this tomorrow and then crow about how many hours it took him to come up with his response! Zinger. (but mostly, I just wanted to open a post with “Regards, Shodan!”) ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/127 "2008-11-28T09:19:46Z")
One of the Democrats in this thread posted this: > [@](#): > > Your posts particularly inspire me to work hard at ensuring that you and those you approve of remain far from having power in this society… I don’t think that’s what the Democrats stand for or what the Obama Administration has in mind or what Democracy is about. MNO Democrat. L,MNO Liberal either. Hi, **Shodan**! Hey, **Starving Artist**! I heard a rumor the other day that Republicans and social conservatives don’t really want to make me get pregnant and learn how to hunt. Is that true? I will donate to your next campaign if you will let me keep the trees in my yard. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/128 "2008-11-28T23:05:12Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > Hi, **Shodan**! Hey, **Starving Artist**! … > > I will donate to your next campaign if you will let me keep the trees in my yard. How’s about you let me carve our initials in 'em instead? 😉 And thanks for the good word, **ntucker**. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/129 "2008-11-28T23:49:30Z")
> [@Ensign\_Edison](#): > > Dear fuckface, > > Shodan is not a troll, and where the fuck do you get off telling me who to ignore? How arrogant and petty do you have to be to announce to a whole message board that it’s a moral imperative to shun somebody you don’t like? > > love, > Seth I ignore a lot of people I don’t like, they ignore me. What’s the problem? ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/130 "2008-11-29T01:00:26Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I ignore a lot of people I don’t like, they ignore me. What’s the problem? I didn’t say there’s a problem with ignoring people. I said there’s a problem with announcing to everybody else who they must ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/131 "2008-11-29T05:39:45Z")
Aaaanyway … this thread needs to die. It has turned into a shining example of exactly what I want to see less of. 😛 But at least it’s all in its own dedicated pit thread. I haven’t been around for a couple of days … did it stop happening in the other forums yet?! No? Crap. I tried. I suppose if this particular trainwreck serves to remind anyone in the future to think twice before they bother to respond to some of the more asinine posters around here … that’s progress. Before you go typing out that 1000 word quoted, cited, and formatted reply, carefully stating and restating and translating your probably-obvious point … to somebody who is clearly just picking a nit to get under your skin and sidetrack the point at hand … think of this shitty thread. And Edison … you will do as you are told. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/132 "2008-11-29T13:22:35Z")
So, you started a thread to tell everyone not to respond, and now you are posting to it so it will die. Okaaayyy… Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548/133 "2008-11-29T19:00:57Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > So, you started a thread to tell everyone not to respond, and now you are posting to it so it will die. No, at this point his best bet is to make it drag on as long as possible, if he wants it to be “a reminder of what happens when you respond to the more asinine” OP’s. A brilliant plan if I ever heard one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-not-a-regards-shodan-pitting/474548.md?page=6)