# This is parody, right? (Meme about extreme libertarianism) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554 "2024-02-14T16:35:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/41 "2024-02-14T23:39:35Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > Long story short, this kind of system will inevitably devolve into a single entity having a monopoly on force. Which is what we have now. You’ve pretty much described how governments evolved into what we have. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/42 "2024-02-14T23:48:18Z")
By the way, protection sounds good, you do not get robbed in the first place, but paying for after-the-fact judgement/arbitration sounds like a scam. You were robbed in the street at gunpoint, according to the posted scenario? How much were you carrying in old-fashioned fungible cash that it would be worth the cost of hiring a street merc, operative, or gangster to do something about it? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/43 "2024-02-14T23:51:20Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wrong dystopian movie. > > **ROLLERBALL!** I’d have said ( Given that they are brain-dead Libertarians ) paintball… but with AR-15s. All surviving children are to be impaled on red-hot metal spikes to feed their animals. “What happened to case 0451?” “They settled with guns. Their children are being impaled now.” ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/44 "2024-02-14T23:51:45Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@WalterBishop](#): > > > > Long story short, this kind of system will inevitably devolve into a single entity having a monopoly on force. Which is what we have now. > > You’ve pretty much described how governments evolved into what we have. Sure. The megacorporation effectively becomes the government. A corporation is simply a legal construct used to define an organization. The question is how does corporate policy (laws) get made and how is leadership selected? Absent any government oversight, is there any reason to believe that laws would be created through a process of formal legislation with appropriate representation or that succession plans would consist of some sort of shareholder vote according to a formalized corporate charter and set of by-laws? The OP might not be “parody” but it is written by someone who doesn’t understand the role of government or corporations for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/45 "2024-02-15T01:17:10Z")
Thunderball! What? What do you mean “it’s already been done”? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/46 "2024-02-15T08:26:14Z")
Anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoronic joke. That’s all I’m going to say in a thread that was well-poisoned against participation by any actual anarchists right from the strawmanning OP. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/47 "2024-02-15T10:48:01Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > Arbitration costs money, Money? What money? How can you have money without government? ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/48 "2024-02-15T10:51:30Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > That right there is one of the reasons Libertarians get a whopping 1-3% of the vote. A substantial fringe of them are anarcho-capitalists who don’t understand that you need an unbiased sovereign to administer the law. Private competing law enforcement does not work. Unless it’s a judge in a case involving Elon Musk. Then they have to have skin in the game, right? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/49 "2024-02-15T11:10:58Z")
Like this: > **[Company scrip](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip)** > > Company scrip is scrip (a substitute for government-issued legal tender or currency) issued by a company to pay its employees. It can only be exchanged in company stores owned by the employers. In the United Kingdom, such truck systems have long been formally outlawed under the Truck Acts. In the United States, payment in scrip became illegal in 1938 as part of the Fair Labor Standards Act. > In the United States, mining and logging camps were typically created, owned and operated by a single comp... ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/50 "2024-02-15T11:42:31Z")
Yes, I’ve noticed that such people like the idea of slavery; especially the slavery of women. It’s not _oppression_ if it’s _debt_ slavery, you see; a feature in that Freehold book. Along with support for terrorism and genocide. Libertarianism has a strong correlations with the worst behavior and beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/51 "2024-02-15T12:24:36Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > This has been on my Twitter feed a lot of late, being justifiably mocked. I’m assuming it is meant to be from anarcho-capitalists of some kind. But it’s not right? It’s got to be a parody? I was a libertarian before I reached political adulthood. I can tell you they are absolutely that delusional (I know, because this kind of thing made sense to me at some point). The start from the first-principle that they shouldn’t have to submit to democratic government, then as the need for government emerges during debate, they re-invent it in more palatable terms, but administered by people with money. Some of them are simply delusional; most of them do not understand that historical deep inequality prevents us from simply rewriting society and restarting the game from scratch, not without redistributing all the money. They don’t want to do that, so they hand-wave “corporations” as the omniscient benevolent power that will make everything right. Why? They’re already rich, so they must know things. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/52 "2024-02-15T13:07:21Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > What if Walter also is a customer of ADT? Will ADT and ADT agree to arbitration, and will ADT punish their own customer if he is found liable? What if Walter is a “premium” customer of ADT and Marie is “basic”? > > Let’s be fair, if Walter is a VP at ADT, Marie should just hope ADT forgets the whole thing rather than punish HER for slander. What if Walter isn’t under contract with any protection company? Is he some sort of dystopian SovCit that’s not bound by any contract? ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/53 "2024-02-15T13:34:43Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > What if Walter isn’t under contract with any protection company? That part’s easy. ADT’s customer service personnel will knock on his door with a sledge hammer and ‘service’ Walter until he coughs up the money he owes Marie. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/54 "2024-02-15T14:45:47Z")
What gets me is the blase tone in the phrase about Walter having “a lot of his property seized and given to Marie”. What if Walter doesn’t have a lot of property to seize? What if Marie doesn’t want Walter’s grimy, crappy property? What if Walter blew all of the money he took from Marie on drugs? Does Marie get the drugs? Does she have to become a drug dealer to get any of her money back? ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/55 "2024-02-15T15:12:38Z")
More stupidity here. “there are no warlords in anarcho-capitalism” Proceeds to draw a diagram of exactly how warlords work (right up to the point where one becomes powerful enough to force the others to pay them fealty and then you have a feudal monarchy) > ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/56 "2024-02-15T15:45:51Z")
All this reminds me of an Instagram video I saw recently, in which a woman was talking about how wonderful it was 150 years ago, when you didn’t have to “ask the government for permission” to do things like sell crops you grew on your own land or open a new business. Yeah, good times. You also didn’t need the government’s permission to employ children for pennies a day, or sell poison as medicine. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/57 "2024-02-15T15:58:57Z")
I’m pretty sure that graphic just explained how WW1 happened. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/58 "2024-02-15T16:06:16Z")
No, it explains why WW1 didn’t happen, because no one would do that! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/59 "2024-02-15T16:20:32Z")
I’ve been meaning to ask that. What type of currenc[y/ies] are Margaret and Walter using to pay their respective rights-enforcement organizations? ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554/60 "2024-02-15T16:22:42Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > What type of currenc[y/ies] are Margaret and Walter using to pay their respective rights-enforcement organizations? I was assuming it was Bitcoin. This whole thing has cryptobro written all over it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-parody-right-meme-about-extreme-libertarianism/997554.md?page=4)