# This is Sheriff Arpaio's idea of a school-protection posse **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252 "2013-02-14T03:32:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/1 "2013-02-14T03:32:03Z")
Arpaio has been slammed before for [neglecting sex-crimes investigations](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/11/1186339/-Wanna-read-the-report-of-Arpaio-s-botched-sex-crimes-investigation-Open-your-wallet) in Maricopa County, AZ, while putting emphasis on more important things, like sweeps for illegal immigrants, and investigating Obama’s birth certificate. But this goes further – apparently his approach to sex-criminals is to recruit them to guard and protect schoolchildren. Story [here](http://www.salon.com/2013/02/13/joe_arpaio_hired_a_convicted_child_sex_criminal_for_armed_school_%e2%80%9cposse%e2%80%9d/): > [@](#): > > Responding to calls from the National Rifle Association to arm teachers and school officials, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio vowed to deploy his gun-toting volunteers to monitor Arizona schools. Members of the 3,450-strong group began patrolling in January, and the sheriff’s office announced recently that the program will continue into next year. But the thing is, no schools have actually requested this service from Sheriff Joe, and it’s easy to understand why. > > Local news affiliate KPHO reported on Arpaio’s “posse” and found that the sheriff hired sex offenders, domestic abusers and other members with criminal records to “serve and protect” Phoenix-area schools. But at least they’re not **Mexican!** ---
**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/2 "2013-02-14T03:33:56Z")
Total senile joke, our sherruf. I know some of those “posse” members, bunch of wannabes. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/3 "2013-02-14T03:37:23Z")
Well gosh, they’re being trained by Steven Seagal, that must count for something, right? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/4 "2013-02-14T04:10:41Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Well gosh, they’re being trained by Steven Seagal, that must count for something, right? If they want to learn about Buddhism. Which, all things considered, they really should. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/5 "2013-02-14T06:55:52Z")
Okay, so adding Arizona to the list of no-visit states… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/6 "2013-02-14T07:12:51Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Okay, so adding Arizona to the list of no-visit states… Wait! I gotta [better idea](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=681265)! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/7 "2013-02-14T08:08:19Z")
[Relevant video clip.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km7WD8wkb1c) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/8 "2013-02-14T08:12:36Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Wait! I gotta [better idea](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=681265)! Nah. Too hot there. Especially near the elementary schools, what, with all that gunfire and security rubbing against kids. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/9 "2013-02-14T12:05:09Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > [Relevant video clip.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km7WD8wkb1c) 😃 The “win” is strong with this one. I love how apropos that clip is to what this retard is doing. I can’t believe he’s got support. A conversation with this man must reveal that he is in fact, \*that \*stupid. If he’s going to recruit sex offenders and criminals to “defend schools” then by golly you should be able to tell how dumb he is just by talking to him. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/10 "2013-02-14T13:13:59Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Arpaio has been slammed before for [neglecting sex-crimes investigations](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/11/1186339/-Wanna-read-the-report-of-Arpaio-s-botched-sex-crimes-investigation-Open-your-wallet) in Maricopa County, AZ, while putting emphasis on more important things, like sweeps for illegal immigrants, and investigating Obama’s birth certificate. But this goes further – apparently his approach to sex-criminals is to recruit them to guard and protect schoolchildren. Story [here](http://www.salon.com/2013/02/13/joe_arpaio_hired_a_convicted_child_sex_criminal_for_armed_school_%e2%80%9cposse%e2%80%9d/): > > But at least they’re not **Mexican!** So, from the article you cited, Arpaio has 3,450 volunteers. And the article attempting to slam him points to one (1) sex offender and one (1) person _charged_ with domestic abuse. Unbelievable! But not in the way you think. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/11 "2013-02-14T13:48:15Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > So, from the article you cited, Arpaio has 3,450 volunteers. And the article attempting to slam him points to one (1) sex offender and one (1) person _charged_ with domestic abuse. So, how many sex offenders is too many? ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/12 "2013-02-14T13:50:33Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So, how many sex offenders is too many? One more than Arpaio hires. ---
**Author:** ![campp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@campp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/campp)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/13 "2013-02-14T13:52:04Z")
Here is one Posse member that [only cost the county $200k](http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/20130124mcso-posse-training-questioned.html)due to incompetance. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/14 "2013-02-14T13:58:14Z")
The background check for Arpaio’s posse: 1. Are they brown? 2. Are you sure about that? Maybe they don’t look it, but have an Hispanic last name? 3. You’re absolutely, 100% they’re not Mexican\*? [sub]\*“Mexican” consists, but is not limited to, anyone from any of them there “brown” countries, like Panama, South America, and Puerto Rico.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/15 "2013-02-14T14:12:08Z")
Colbert quipped something along the lines of: “It takes amazing dedication to guard a school you’re not allowed within 500 feet of.” ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/16 "2013-02-14T14:15:32Z")
Well, it’s _hard_ to do background checks on people who want to volunteer at schools! And expensive! And time-consuming! You can’t expect Arpaio to have known this before coming up with his plan! What was he supposed to do, _not_ hire sex offenders? Think of the chillllldrennnn! ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/17 "2013-02-14T14:38:57Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So, how many sex offenders is too many? Well, two would be a good start. At least then the kneejerking nitwit OP would have some ground to stand on when he claims “OMG! Arpaio is getting sex criminals to protect children!” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/18 "2013-02-14T14:39:17Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > The “win” is strong with this one. > > I love how apropos that clip is to what this retard is doing. > > I can’t believe he’s got support. A conversation with this man must reveal that he is in fact, \*that \*stupid. If he’s going to recruit sex offenders and criminals to “defend schools” then by golly you should be able to tell how dumb he is just by talking to him. What does that say about the people of Maricopa County? They just re-elected him last year. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/19 "2013-02-14T14:41:10Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > What does that say about the people of Maricopa County? They just re-elected him last year. What do _you_ think it says? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252/20 "2013-02-14T14:41:36Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So, how many sex offenders is too many? Let’s say, as you seem to suggest, that one is too many. Unless you have Tom Cruise standing by with his team’s ability to look into the future, I don’t see what Arpaio could have done. From [here:](http://www.azcentral.com/community/swvalley/articles/2009/08/10/20090810mcsodo0810-ON.html) > [@](#): > > A detention officer in the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office was arrested late last week on allegations that he exchanged nude photos and lurid messages with underage girls from around the United States. > > Sheriff’s detectives arrested Dominic Boulter, 51, on Thursday at a Sheriff’s Office substation in Avondale. Boulter, a Canadian citizen, was released on a $20,000 bond and ordered to surrender his passport. > > According to an arrest report, Boulter began using an online service called [Phonezoo.com](http://Phonezoo.com) in early 2005 to meet young girls between 13 and 17 years old. Boulter ultimately exchanged nude photos and text messages with at least eight underage girls from around the country. Boulter also suggested that he meet the girls in person to engage in sex acts and to get married, according to court documents. > > During the encounters, Boulter told the girls he was 15 years old, 27 years old and 32 years old, according to the document. It’s technically true, then, to say that the Sheriff hired a sex offender. But the order of things seems important here: FIRST he was hired, THEN, some seven years later, he was arrested for sex offenses. After his arrest, his employment with the Sheriff’s office was terminated – [November 2009](http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/07/21/20100721sheriffs-detention-officer-faces-deportation-sex-crime.html). Based on this information, it appears to me that the claims above are pretty misleading. What do you think? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-sheriff-arpaios-idea-of-a-school-protection-posse/650252.md?page=2)