# THIS is the real, true, massive problem with Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 5, 2025, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-the-real-true-massive-problem-with-trump/1024592 "2025-11-05T05:39:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-the-real-true-massive-problem-with-trump/1024592/103 "2025-11-11T13:50:50Z")
Arguing from disbelief does not get us too far. They’re right at this: > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > the mainstream media which was the primary opposition to the right-wing propaganda, viewed objective journalism more as presenting both sides rather than presenting the truth, so they normalized Trump And the sanewash had been primed by two decades of FOXNews and three of RW TalkRadio creating a whole profitable market segment of people who would be very pissed off at coverage that emphasized truth over “balance” so now the mainstream dared not antagonize them. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-the-real-true-massive-problem-with-trump/1024592/104 "2025-11-11T14:43:00Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > > so they normalized Trump’s activities making him palatable to non-cult members who don’t pay too much attention and just see him as another politician, who you should vote for if you don’t like the status quo. > > I donno how anyone could see it as just another politician. Sure many have their head in the sand, but I think it’s because they idolize him, and want to be just like him. I don’t think they care. I saw a video the other day where the author (Scott Galloway perhaps) suggested that one of the most distressing things in society is having your kids not do as well as you by age 30 or so. In general. I’m sure there are plenty of super-wealthy and celebrities whose kids are of regular ability. I imagine it’s also fairly distressing to be a young person not doing as well as your parents. But basically you have all these people who for decades have been doing all the things they were told to do and are struggling with jobs and careers, finding partners, buying homes, raising kids, and all what I grew up thinking as “normal people shit”. That makes people anxious, angry, confused, and resentful. So the theory goes, these people just want change. So they have turned to the most disruptive source of change they can find. And really by “change” what they want is a change back to “normalcy”. So they are going to gravitate towards more conservative right leaning leaders. ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-the-real-true-massive-problem-with-trump/1024592/105 "2025-11-11T15:33:23Z")
Complete agreement with this, and with msmith below…I think one could chart this whole mess back by following Rush Limbaughs audience numbers. Very cunning man… ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-the-real-true-massive-problem-with-trump/1024592/106 "2025-11-11T17:45:53Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > So the theory goes, these people just want change. Oh, they are gonna change. In spades. Morons. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-the-real-true-massive-problem-with-trump/1024592/107 "2025-11-13T10:46:34Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Oh, they are gonna change. In spades. Morons. Morons and simpletons. I have a number of friends and family who support Trump. They are objectively good people but they don’t really put together coherent thoughts on complex topics nor are they particularly introspective or willing to question. The best way I can describe is they get a feeling or thought in their head and that becomes reality for them. Trump realized he can tap into these people’s fears and their association of the Democrats as everything that embodies those fears. The problem with Trump is that he’s a terrible person and his ideas don’t make any sense. But these people who follow him assume don’t really understand it and think “at least he’s doing something” to prevent whatever horror they think the Democrats are about to unleash. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-the-real-true-massive-problem-with-trump/1024592.md?page=5)